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NYT: Michigan state discouraged reporting of rape allegations against 3 basketball players

Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:35 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:35 pm
There will be a press conference tomorrow

Really bad look

One of the girls coming forward tomorrow was a sports journalist working with team.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:36 pm to
Whole school needs a purge
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:37 pm to
What's wrong with folks in Big 10 country?
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
21876 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:40 pm to
The media cries about Izzo screaming at players when this is happening
Posted by JetsetNuggs
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38123 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:41 pm to
but but LSU paid a player
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35558 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:41 pm to
Winter. It's cold and long.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:41 pm to
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Robin and David Kowalski barely recognized their daughter Bailey when she was visiting home in White Lake, Mich., in the spring of 2015.
Their perennially positive daughter, who was about to finish her freshman year at Michigan State, was sullen. She had suddenly decided to abandon her long-held dream of being a sports journalist, and she refused to tell her mother, in whom she typically confided everything, why.
It was not until October, after months of erratic behavior, that Ms. Kowalski told her parents that she had been raped by three Michigan State basketball players that April. The incident left her depressed and considering harming herself. She dropped out of college for a while and received counseling. She gave up sports journalism for good.
Last year, Ms. Kowalski, 22, who is speaking publicly about her case for the first time, sued Michigan State in federal court for violating her rights under Title IX, the federal law mandating gender equity in higher education, as a Jane Doe. The lawsuit asserts that Michigan State mishandles sexual misconduct complaints against athletes. One woman said two football players raped her in 2009, but she was not advised of her Title IX rights, the lawsuit said, and another woman said three basketball players raped her in 2010, after which the accusations were not reported outside the athletic department.
A Michigan State motion to dismiss the case is pending. A university spokeswoman, Emily Guerrant, declined to comment on the case while the litigation in ongoing but said Michigan State “is dedicated to making sure every student receives fair treatment and support when they need it.”
Ms. Kowalski has decided to come forward, hoping she could persuade other victims, at Michigan State or elsewhere, to tell their stories.
According to Ms. Kowalski, when a university counselor learned that the men who she said assailed her were members of the basketball team — a storied and treasured program that has played in 10 Final Fours, including this year’s — the counselor discouraged her from reporting it, the lawsuit said.
“If you pursue this, you are going to be swimming with some really big fish,” a staff member told Ms. Kowalski, the lawsuit said.
Ms. Kowalski plans to hold a news conference in East Lansing on Thursday, the four-year anniversary of the incident. A month later, she will graduate from Michigan State.
“I don’t want any other girl who has gone through this, or who God forbid may have to go through something like this, to feel for one second that they should be too afraid to come out and do something,” Ms. Kowalski said in a phone interview last week.
Her lawyer, Karen Truszkowski, said that a separate Title IX investigation initiated by the university last June had dragged on.
“It will not be resolved within a year,” said Ms. Truszkowski, who declined to discuss the substance of the investigation because it is pending. “That has consumed her entire senior year.”
Ms. Kowalski is still declining to name the men she says raped her on the night of April 11, 2015. All were members of the 2014-15 Spartans team, she said. She has not filed a police report, but is considering doing so.
It’s still unclear to Ms. Kowalski who at Michigan State eventually learned about what she told the counselor. “I still to this day don’t know who knew,” she said. “How far up. Who was the last person to know about what I told the counselor in the counseling center the day I went in?”
Also last winter, ESPN reported several previously undisclosed sexual misconduct allegations against members of Michigan State’s football and men’s basketball programs. In several instances, ESPN said, the accusations were handled by the athletics program, rather than the venues mandated by federal law.
“There’s a lot that they have yet to take accountability for, as far as what’s going on in the athletic department and the systematic errors that are allowing the athletic department to be put above females that have been victims of sexual assault by athletes,” Ms. Kowalski said.
The lawsuit states that the sexual assault occurred in April 2015 after an informal celebration at an East Lansing bar for the basketball team, which had recently returned from the Final Four in Indianapolis, where it lost to eventual champion Duke in the national semifinals. (Ms. Kowalski, days away from turning 19, said she used fake identification to enter the bar.)
Ms. Kowalski’s roommate encouraged her to approach the players.
“I knew their stats, numbers, everything,” Ms. Kowalski said, adding, “She knew how I looked up to those guys.”
A team member invited Ms. Kowalski to his place for a party, and she accepted a drive to an off-campus apartment, the lawsuit said. When she arrived, there was no one else there, and Ms. Kowalski, who had already had trouble holding her glass at the bar despite not drinking much, had trouble controlling her thumbs to send a text, the lawsuit said.
The three players took turns raping her, the lawsuit said. She woke up later in the apartment and took a taxi back to her dorm.
Ms. Kowalski visited the Michigan State University Counseling Center roughly a week later, she said. The counselor she met with appeared to change her response to Kowalski upon learning that the men she said had attacked her were members of the basketball team. The counselor immediately insisted on having a second person in the room, the lawsuit said. Ms. Kowalski was not advised to seek a physical exam or pregnancy or S.T.D. testing, and was not made aware of her rights under Title IX.
With cases with “guys with big names,” she was told, according to the lawsuit, the best thing was to “just get yourself better.”
“She lived with that thought of, ‘Just get yourself better,’” said her mother, Robin Kowalski, in a phone interview last week.
When Bailey Kowalski first sued Michigan State last spring, the university rebutted her claims in a statement with significant and unusual detail. “We have not found any evidence or indication that she was discouraged in any way to make a Title IX complaint or a complaint to the police department,” it said. It also said that the university police eventually contacted her.
A day later, Michigan State’s former interim president, John Engler, said in a statement, “We regret that we provided an unnecessary amount of detail” in the initial response.
“They went out to the press and essentially addressed my lawsuit as a lie,” Ms. Kowalski said, “which basically was a message to anyone else coming forward with allegations similar to mine that, ‘If you’re going to do that, we’re going to completely exploit you.’”
After taking much of a semester off and receiving outpatient psychiatric treatment, Ms. Kowalski elected to return to Michigan State, believing that transferring to an unknown campus where she did not know anyone would have been worse. Her brother is currently a sophomore at Michigan State.
She suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder, she said, and felt she could never return to the vocation to which she had long aspired. She switched from a planned double-major in journalism and Spanish to one in biology. She hopes eventually to become a veterinarian.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124442 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:43 pm to
Love to hear how Vitale will spin this
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22171 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:44 pm to
Bye bye izzo and the AD
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
30291 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:45 pm to
H to the Izzo..Rape to the Hizz-A Playuhs..V to the DA and Feds.
Posted by airlinehwypanhandler
Airline Highway
Member since Feb 2019
2130 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:46 pm to
Didn't this already come out a couple years ago? I remember thinking Izzo was gone at the time
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84899 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:47 pm to
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Bye bye izzo and the AD


Maybe, but she seems to make it pretty clear she doesn't know how far up it went. It was a university counselor, not someone in the athletic office. It's certainly a Michigan State problem, but it may not be an Izzo problem.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34508 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:48 pm to
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The lawsuit states that the sexual assault occurred in April 2015 after an informal celebration at an East Lansing bar for the basketball team, which had recently returned from the Final Four in Indianapolis, where it lost to eventual champion Duke in the national semifinals. (Ms. Kowalski, days away from turning 19, said she used fake identification to enter the bar.) Ms. Kowalski’s roommate encouraged her to approach the players. “I knew their stats, numbers, everything,” Ms. Kowalski said, adding, “She knew how I looked up to those guys.” A team member invited Ms. Kowalski to his place for a party, and she accepted a drive to an off-campus apartment, the lawsuit said. When she arrived, there was no one else there, and Ms. Kowalski, who had already had trouble holding her glass at the bar despite not drinking much, had trouble controlling her thumbs to send a text, the lawsuit said. The three players took turns raping her, the lawsuit said. She woke up later in the apartment and took a taxi back to her dorm.


I’m gonna wait til ALL facts come out until I make a comment or assumption
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120288 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:50 pm to
Wood have consensual sex with

Dog could watch

This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
6730 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:54 pm to
Any idea on the identity of the 3 players? I don’t even remember who was on that team.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10418 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:58 pm to
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It was a university counselor, not someone in the athletic office. It's certainly a Michigan State problem, but it may not be an Izzo problem.


The big issue is MSU's consistent mishandling of these allegations. From Nassar on, there was a glaring pattern of the university hushing them up.

It may not be related to Izzo, but the worse it gets, I wonder if he wants to go down with the ship even if it doesn't directly involve him.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84868 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:59 pm to
Reinstate Wade right now while this is the headline
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83474 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 1:59 pm to
Yeah but it's hot as hell 10 months out of the year here in Florida and we have face eating zombies walking around everywhere.
Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
11225 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:03 pm to
And Dicky V won’t say shite
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