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re: Now with NIL shouldn’t athletes pay tuition and housing?
Posted on 7/2/21 at 7:43 pm to TigerLunatik
Posted on 7/2/21 at 7:43 pm to TigerLunatik
Exactly! This dude is 100% trolling.
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Posted on 7/2/21 at 7:43 pm to TigerLunatik
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There are maybe 5 players on the football team that would get a deal like that. Maybe 5. Crews and Morgan are the only ones on the baseball team. Darius Days is another big maybe. That's it outside of Olivia Dunne.
Nobody wants these kids for their image, other than a few big names. The kids will get money on signing day, or day the agree to transfer.
Its completely about pay to play and has very little to do with their marketable status.
Posted on 7/2/21 at 7:45 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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The kids will get money on signing day, or day the agree to transfer.
That's already happening and doesn't apply to the new NIL rules.
Posted on 7/2/21 at 7:45 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
I do think that this NIL thing will make it easier to allocate money that’s already being allocated to a lot of these athletes. All you have to do is launder it through a sponsor.
Posted on 7/2/21 at 7:47 pm to TigerLunatik
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That's already happening and doesn't apply to the new NIL rules.
Yes and no, it was happening but it had to be hidden so the amounts generally couldn't get as high. Now it can happen in the open, which than entails more open bidding.
99% of the players won't have income other than signing, eventually.
Heck, in Charlotte the big pro guys are lucky to get car dealership deals.... what is that $10 of thousands, maybe?
This post was edited on 7/2/21 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 7/2/21 at 7:48 pm to TigerLunatik
Oh the backups and minor athletes will not get big money but they will get paid.
There is nothing to keep TAF, for example, from licensing the water boy’s likeness. Nothing to keep the Birmingham Gridiron Club from making sure ever Ba recruit gets a minimum $10,000 NIL deal. On and on
There is nothing to keep TAF, for example, from licensing the water boy’s likeness. Nothing to keep the Birmingham Gridiron Club from making sure ever Ba recruit gets a minimum $10,000 NIL deal. On and on
Posted on 7/2/21 at 7:48 pm to SemiNoblePursuit
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I do think that this NIL thing will make it easier to allocate money that’s already being allocated to a lot of these athletes. All you have to do is launder it through a sponsor.
Unless its coming from the school, it doesn't have to be laundered. Its now open season.
Posted on 7/2/21 at 7:49 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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Yes and no, it was happening but it had to be hidden so the amounts generally couldn't get as high. Now it can happen in the open, which than entails more open bidding.
It has to be fair market value. A player can't just get $10,000 for a signing a football.
Posted on 7/2/21 at 7:51 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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Unless its coming from the school, it doesn't have to be laundered. Its now open season.
Need some plants and law firms in town to…. Step up… then
Posted on 7/2/21 at 7:51 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
You are exactly right and now that it is open the numbers will get big quick. Cutting O’s pay $1 million would fund 100 $10000 “NIL” deals for example.
Posted on 7/2/21 at 7:52 pm to TigerLunatik
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It has to be fair market value. A player can't just get $10,000 for a signing a football.
Not completely true. For example, if LSU did not have a rule than there is no rule. The Louisiana law does not cover that, it only covers it if its being done by or thru the school.
Here is the kicker, there really is no penalty even if LSU did it. Not in the law, they could than pull State funding but that would require additional legislation.
At the end of the day a third party can pay a player to sign on signing day. The only thing that LSU could do is pull the scholarship, but than the player could just transfer out.... so what?
The law only covers students enrolled at a school which receives state funding in the state.
I could pay X number of players to sign with LSU, as long as LSU doesn't have a rule... there really wouldn't be anything to discuss.
This post was edited on 7/2/21 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 7/2/21 at 7:54 pm to I B Freeman
No. The school isn't paying the NIL money, so why should they get a break for the money the athletes earn?
Posted on 7/2/21 at 7:55 pm to BillF
Why should they give the athletes anything?
Posted on 7/2/21 at 7:57 pm to I B Freeman
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Why should they give the athletes anything?
Why does anyone give anyone anything?
School A has deals of $100,000 plus a full scholarship, School B has deals of $100,000 plus no scholarship.
Where does the player pick?
This is why you don't see the Ivy League competing at a high level normally, although they have had some decent b ball teams. No scholarships.
Give the Lakers a salary cap of $200m and give the New Orleans Pelicans a salary cap of $20m... which one wins?
This post was edited on 7/2/21 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 7/2/21 at 7:59 pm to TigerLunatik
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There are maybe 5 players on the football team that would get a deal like that. Maybe 5. Crews and Morgan are the only ones on the baseball team. Darius Days is another big maybe. That's it outside of Olivia Dunne.
The big names will get endorsement deals and such. But there are quite a few obscure athletes around the country who are way more popular on social media than they are "on the field".
UCF's kicker was a popular Youtuber and was kicked off the football team b/c he refused to stop taking money from Youtube. This kind of thing will be allowed now.
SI article about UCF Kicker Donald De La Haye
Donald De La Haye's Youtube Channel. He produces some legit quality content
This is the kind of stuff he does. He's got connections obviously.
Dee Doing 1 on 1 with Justin Jefferson
This post was edited on 7/2/21 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 7/2/21 at 8:00 pm to I B Freeman
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Why not???
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The NCAA, per new details revealed in its “Interim NIL Policy,” has decided to largely defer decisions on compensation for college athletes to states with their own laws or, in the event no such law is in effect, individual schools. The college governing body’s guidance, however, forbids on-field performance from altering the value of endorsement deals. Sports Illustrated’s Ross Dellenger tweeted the NCAA document on Saturday.
They can't just pay some obscene amount of money. As I said, it has to be fair market value. No one is getting paid $10k for a signature, not even the best players in the world.
Posted on 7/2/21 at 8:01 pm to TigerLunatik
Nothing in what you just posted backs up what you are saying.
Posted on 7/2/21 at 8:01 pm to TigerLunatik
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They can't just pay some obscene amount of money. As I said, it has to be fair market value. No one is getting paid $10k for a signature, not even the best players in the world.
Yes they can, I have read the fricking law. The law doesn't even cover third parties... why? No connection to a public right. If the school put in a rule than they could pull the scholarship, the player can than transfer out. Why would the school do that?
The NCAA has nothing to do with it... they have been gutted. The NCAA has no ability to enforce on compensation restrictions. That ship is long gone. They are trying to change rules because all their rules are unenforceable, see State law, see Justice Department anti-trust letter, and last week the USSC decision.
This post was edited on 7/2/21 at 8:06 pm
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