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re: Nolan Ryan vs. Randy Johnson

Posted on 5/22/21 at 1:01 am to
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
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Posted on 5/22/21 at 1:01 am to
What does that have to do with what I said? I'd likely strike out against either, just stating who I think would get me out easier.

You guys are a bunch of pussies
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 6:22 am to
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What does that have to do with what I said? I'd likely strike out against either, just stating who I think would get me out easier.

You guys are a bunch of pussies

the fact you think you could even make contact against either one is extremely laughable. Why even say something so damn stupid?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69283 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 6:25 am to
Ryan, at the age of 46, deliberately beamed Robin Ventura before one of the most epic mound charges/fights in MLB history. Gimmie Ryan.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81391 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 6:53 am to
Also got beat up by Dave Winfield when he was like 30.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
86565 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 7:15 am to
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Randy might accidentally get one too close to your head, but Nolan would do it in purpose.


Randy hit more batters than Ryan did and was just as feared
This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 7:17 am
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
11878 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 7:51 am to
Big Unit looked like a Titan on the mound and is coming in from the left. I want no part of him.

I’ll face Nolan.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
19284 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 8:05 am to
quote:

What does that have to do with what I said? I'd likely strike out against either, just stating who I think would get me out easier. You guys are a bunch of pussies


Listen little Jayden Kayne travel ball all star, I know mommy and daddy told you you’re good enough, smart enough and people like you... but I’m here to tell you to eat shite because they both would need three pitches to send you dragging your no talent arse back to the dugout. So... realize your limitations, douche, it’s very important.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
86565 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 8:15 am to
quote:

I'd likely strike out against either


Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31269 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 8:22 am to
TIL both Ryan and Johnson were 46 when they retired.

But Nolan played in a different era, where pitchers actually pitched. Nolan pitched 222 complete games, where Randy only pitched 100. Ryan threw 332 innings in 74. The most Johnson ever pitched was 271 in 99.

I’m not taking anything away from Randy Johnson, believe me. But most people think Ryan just played forever, but it’s more about how much he played vs how long he played. Which makes the strikeout record all the more impressive, imho. Being dominant on shorter rest and such.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
19284 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 9:06 am to
I had the pleasure of seeing Nolan Ryan start four different games from 90-93. The first baseball game I ever watched was his 299th win, he was a special kind of talent. The guy was in his 40’s, slinging 100 mph fastballs like aspirin. When the ball hit the mitt it echoed over the entire stadium, the old Ranger stadium in Arlington. He led the league in no-hitters and strikeouts in his 40’s... he was an unbelievable pitcher, you had to see it. He made dudes with elite hand/eye coordination look silly. I owe my love of baseball to him honestly.

The Big Unit I never got to watch pitch unfortunately but his stats speak for themselves. He intimidated batters because he seemed to be in their face on his release. He was a generational talent too and deserves every bit of praise he received.

Despite their careers crossing paths, they were part of different eras for pitches. When Nolan got on the mound in the 70s and 80s, pitchers were expected to go 9 innings. Randy was part of some great teams, but they were more formed pitching “staffs” by the time he was in his prime. It’s really an apples and oranges comparison, IYAM. Both deserved first ballot HOF.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28336 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 9:16 am to
quote:

Listen little Jayden Kayne travel ball all star, I know mommy and daddy told you you’re good enough, smart enough and people like you... but I’m here to tell you to eat shite because they both would need three pitches to send you dragging your no talent arse back to the dugout. So... realize your limitations, douche, it’s very important.


quote:

by Honest Tune


Name checks out.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28336 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 9:17 am to
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Nolan pitched 222 complete games, where Randy only pitched 100.


These records will likely never be sniffed. The active leader in complete games in the majors is Justin Verlander with 26.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28336 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 9:20 am to
The Big Unit was deadly efficient at times. His K/9 and WHIP numbers speak for themselves.
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
11878 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 9:27 am to
quote:

Nolan pitched 222 complete games, where Randy only pitched 100.


Rookie numbers. Gibby tossed 255 CG. And 8 more in the postseason.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
19284 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 9:28 am to
Gibson vs Ryan is actually a better comparison. Gibson did have the good fortune of being on some elite teams, but he was an elite star in his own right.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
215978 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 9:34 am to
I’d rather face Ryan or Randy before a prime Gibson....
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
11878 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 9:56 am to
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I’d rather face Ryan or Randy before a prime Gibson..


Exactly. Gibby is on an entirely different level. The MJ of the mound. But far meaner.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
215978 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:14 am to
It still amazes me that he lost 9 games in 1968 with a 1.12 ERA.......
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:30 am to
That never gets old.

Ventura getting his arse kicked by Nolan was classic.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
19284 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:27 am to
Whenever Ryan was president of the Rangers and Ventura was manager of the Sox and they came in town, he wouldn’t allow the video to be played on the jumbo out of respect for Robin and the game. All class, baw.
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