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re: No charges filed against Jameis Winston

Posted on 11/21/13 at 5:42 pm to
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32814 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 5:42 pm to
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I'm not posting a 4chan link here [I've seen people get banned before]
then why would you ask in the first place??

Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21116 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 5:42 pm to
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Some poster claims that the accuser met up with JW twice after the incident that night.


Hmm, I dunno but whether it's intentional or error it seems this case sure does have a LOT of mistaken identity wrapped up in it...maybe this goes in that file?
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71139 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

If she didnt go to the police immediately after the event occured, I might believe that. But she did and had the rape kit done right after.



This.

I don't care what some 24/7 insider says or what 4chan is saying about this. The facts as the police and we know them don't line up with that story.

She was supposedly raped around 2:00 AM and was at the hospital getting a rape kit test done and being interviewed by the police almost immediately after the alleged incident occurred.

Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 5:44 pm to
Also 4chan is in no way credible.

The shite they spewed after the Boston Marathon bombings was ridiculous.

If you want a laugh, go to 4chan after a national event. It's amazing. But if you take any of what they say as fact, you're a fool. (yeah that's from the top of 4chan. DGAF.)

Posted by PepaSpray
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Member since Aug 2012
11080 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 5:45 pm to
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If she didnt go to the police immediately after the event occured, I might believe that. But she did and had the rape kit done right after.
that is what is so bizzare.

Imo, tallahassee police is the only one on trial here. They had every reason to investigate and didnt until state authorities said, "hey, why is this not resolved?"
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16374 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 5:47 pm to
Oh yea heads will roll with the Detective, TPD, and anyone else that had a part of "covering up" what happened, failing to investigate a rape claim, and giving evidence and info to the FSU lawyer right after it happened, but not to the girls legal team at all.

If he was innocent and the TPD did everything correctly this they were supposed to, all of this could have very well been over months ago. Yet the fact that they failed to do so many things, and did things for Winstons lawyer but not the girls legal team mucks this up so much and all that makes it look like something illegal did happen.
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 5:50 pm
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21116 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 5:47 pm to
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Also 4chan is in no way credible


Got ya. I'm not very familiar with that site but it seems rather toxic from the comments here...
Posted by massiveattack
CharLIT/Chapel Chill
Member since Oct 2010
11584 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 5:52 pm to
Fun to follow the speculation on the FSUacb/college leak site if anyone is interested
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20110 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 5:54 pm to
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But then again you do have the dumbest fan base in the nation.


Cool story bro. Coming from a fan of the fanbase who has overtaken Penn State as "most delusional", who will believe anything from any weird source that supports winning football games I find it quite hilarious.

Ohh ohh, hey look! Another random guy, from some random place with no credibility has told us to ignore every fact so far and believe his oh so credible source that Jameis is innocent. Everything that supports Jameis is true and anything which doesn't is false.

You drunk off that kool-aid.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299288 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 5:56 pm to
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Some poster claims that the accuser met up with JW twice after the incident that night.



If she didnt go to the police immediately after the event occured, I might believe that. But she did and had the rape kit done right after.


Doesn't even matter if she did. There are plenty of reasons why they could have met up post incident. They probably knew each other before, but that doesn't mean a rape didn't occur.

Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 5:59 pm to
You know a picture with some girls doesn't mean he's fricking them.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16374 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:07 pm to
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Doesn't even matter if she did. There are plenty of reasons why they could have met up post incident. They probably knew each other before, but that doesn't mean a rape didn't occur.


Yea i agree with that. But if you were raped, would you go and hang out with the person that raped you after?

And from all the info that has come out so far, I do think he is guilty. I just dont believe the rumor started by some poster of 4chan that they met up after she was raped...

And if the girl knew him before, she would of been able to tell the police exactly who it was that raped her. And she said she didnt know him before too.
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 6:08 pm
Posted by CarolinaSoCocky
Darkside of the Moon
Member since Dec 2012
1157 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

FSUacb/college leak site


Yeah I've been reading that since last night
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20110 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:10 pm to
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You know a picture with some girls doesn't mean he's fricking them.


The picture those clowns were circulating was proven to be false, because it wasn't even her.

The same people which said she was the blonde in that original picture are the same ones coming up with these straw grasping rumor after rumor, each one worse than the previous.

I kid you not, a poster name AZNoles on 247's FSU site has said she will be the one charged and arrested.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:12 pm to
I opened that forum and got AIDs. Thanks a lot.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299288 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:13 pm to
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Yea i agree with that. But if you were raped, would you go and hang out with the person that raped you after?



A twenty something year old girl involved with a highly touted football player, you have no idea how they will react. It's probably pretty easy afterwards to be convinced that she is the one in the wrong here by multitudes of people who have strong interests in protecting Winston. I imagine she was pretty confused and bombarded.
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:14 pm to
I'm talking about the picture Jbeam posted a few pages back, which is likely just some FSU fans taking a picture with him.


The site it came from will probably try to turn a picture with fans into a story, when he more than likely wasn't involved with any of those girls.
Posted by massiveattack
CharLIT/Chapel Chill
Member since Oct 2010
11584 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:14 pm to
nvm false
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 6:17 pm
Posted by BamaChick
Terminus
Member since Dec 2008
21393 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:17 pm to
Me too.

IF that is the girl and she really was raped, the shite they have posted about her and her family is exactly one of the reasons why some women don't report rape, even involving a regular guy. A star athlete? I'd think long and hard about just getting on with my life.

IF it isn't the girl, then those posters are still assholes, just for different reasons.

IF it is the girl and she is lying, the shite they have posted is a cautionary tale for any cleat chasers looking to make a false accusation about rape.

College girls these days live their entire lives through social media and the internet never forgets.

Be interesting - and most likely very ugly - no matter which of the above three scenarios turn out to be true.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16374 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:22 pm to
No i dont know how she would react. Neither do you. All Im saying is that if a girl was raped and then reported it to the police and had a rape kit performed and then IDed him a few weeks after, I highly doubt they would be hanging out and meeting for lunch.

This occurred last December, before he ever played a single down for FSU. I highly doubt she follows recruiting and knew he was a highly touted player.

And, again, Im not saying the girl is in the wrong at all. With the info thats been released, i fully believe Winston did do something illegal.

She went straight to the police after it happened... how confused could she be? Bombarded by who? None of this was public when it originally happened.

I just dispute the rumor that someone on 4chan said that she meet up with Winston a few times after this even happened.
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