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re: NIL revenue share just got way more complicated
Posted on 1/17/25 at 3:07 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 1/17/25 at 3:07 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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The players didn’t agree to that, it was imposed on them
So now your position is the players had no other option and were forced to play football at an ncaa member institution?
Keep calling everyone else stupid, please
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Posted on 1/17/25 at 3:17 pm to Open Your Eyes
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So now your position is the players had no other option and were forced to play football at an ncaa member institution?
Of course not, you just read what you want or assign your thoughts and feeling to other people to drive the own narrative in your head. Legit crazy person activity
Posted on 1/17/25 at 3:17 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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No, which is why they aren’t around. Thanks for making my point
I actually refuted your point. If people watch college football for the players than any league comprised of the same names should generate similar levels of interest.
But they don’t. Because fans are primarily fans of teams.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 3:23 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Of course not, you just read what you want or assign your thoughts and feeling to other people to drive the own narrative in your head. Legit crazy person activity
There is no other justification for you to claim not sharing revenue is something that was imposed on players rather than something they agreed to as a condition of playing college football.
Legit stupid person activity.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 3:24 pm to gdzgft28
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If people watch college football for the players than any league comprised of the same names should generate similar levels of interest.
The school brands and the players both have value both intrinsic and objective. Nike OF COURSE has value, but having LeBron James as a brand ambassador absolutely elevates the value of their brand, both intrinsically and objectively through the sale of the LeBron signature shoe.
That of course is not a one to one example, but the school’s football program has no value without players just as the players would have little to no value without the schools brand. Arguing otherwise is just complete avoidance of reality. We can have an objective debate on the perceived value of each, players and leagues do that every time the CBA comes up and it’s why the revenue splits aren’t 50/50, but completely ignoring the value of players just completely invalidates anything else you have to say on the topic as you aren’t based in reality
Posted on 1/17/25 at 3:25 pm to Open Your Eyes
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There is no other justification for you to claim not sharing revenue is something that was imposed on players rather than something they agreed to as a condition of playing college football.
That’s like saying slaves or child labor agreed to the conditions of their arrangements because they did it. It’s completely asinine.
Again, you are entitled to an opinion that contradicts all reality because it emotionally makes you feel the best. We all do it, just don’t act like something it’s not.
This post was edited on 1/17/25 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 1/17/25 at 3:29 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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That’s like saying slaves or child labor agreed to the conditions of their arrangements because they did it.
So now slaves chose to be slaves? How in the ever living hell do you believe yourself to be an intelligent person?
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It’s completely asinine.
Do you recall earlier in this thread where you avoided the hr block comparison by attempting to claim it was an idiotic analogy?
THIS is an actual idiotic analogy.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 3:30 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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That’s like saying slaves or child labor agreed to the conditions of their arrangements
No it's not, those people were forced to do what they did. No one is forced to play football, they choose to. No one is going to sic overseers and dogs on them if someone decides to stop playing football.
This post was edited on 1/17/25 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 1/17/25 at 3:32 pm to Open Your Eyes
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THIS is an actual idiotic analogy.
It’s of course extreme, but it takes the same path of logic you use and applies it in the same manner to another situation. Explicitly showing how stupid your logic is…. Which is exactly what I was trying to do.
I truly don’t understand what’s so hard about saying “I liked it the way it was so I don’t like the new way, even though it’s more fair to those involved.” It’s not logically sound, but it’s totally understandable and fine
Posted on 1/17/25 at 3:33 pm to WaterLink
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No one is going to sic overseers and dogs on them if someone decides to stop playing football.
I agree, that wasn’t what he said
Posted on 1/17/25 at 3:38 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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The school brands and the players both have value both intrinsic and objective. Nike OF COURSE has value, but having LeBron James as a brand ambassador absolutely elevates the value of their brand, both intrinsically and objectively through the sale of the LeBron signature shoe.
Awful comparison. College football fans by tickets because of the name on the front of the jersey not the back. Nike is paying Lebron because people buy the shoes because his name is on it. Not even remotely comparable.
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That of course is not a one to one example, but the school’s football program has no value without players just as the players would have little to no value without the schools brand.
Yes, schools need football players to field a team. But they don’t need SPECIFIC players. The players need to attend specific schools to have any value. Cam won a national championship at Blinn community college. There were no kids running around with Cam jerseys. But winning a national championship at Auburn? That set him for life.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 3:45 pm to gdzgft28
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College football fans by tickets because of the name on the front of the jersey not the back.
Partly, but the revenue share has nothing to do with ticket sales so what’s your point?
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Nike is paying Lebron because people buy the shoes because his name is on it. Not even remotely comparable.
We’re talking about intrinsic value. That’s my mistake to think most of you are capable of understanding something abstract like that. Mingo regrets the error
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The players need to attend specific schools to have any value. Cam won a national championship at Blinn community college. There were no kids running around with Cam jerseys. But winning a national championship at Auburn? That set him for life.
That’s why the players get a smaller percentage of the revenue. Again, INCREDIBLY easy to understand.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 4:12 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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It’s of course extreme, but it takes the same path of logic you use and applies it in the same manner to another situation
My logic is based entirely on people making a choice to participate in something instead of being forced to do it, because they are.
Again, how do consider yourself to be an intelligent person?
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I truly don’t understand what’s so hard about saying “I liked it the way it was so I don’t like the new way, even though it’s more fair to those involved.” It’s not logically sound, but it’s totally understandable and fine
Because that’s not what’s happening. You being a moron that equates slavery with choosing to play college football are apparently incapable of understanding that.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 4:32 pm to lsupride87
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Without A&M manziel is just a fast crack addict that nobody cares about
If it’s a one-way street and the universities don’t need the Johnny Manziel types, then why are these guys being paid? Why not just put a sign up sheet for football outside the math building and let some everyday accounting major play QB?
Part of the huge appeal of CFB is getting an early look at guys who will be playing on Sunday in the near future.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 4:46 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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That’s why the players get a smaller percentage of the revenue. Again, INCREDIBLY easy to understand.
And no one gives a shite about Blinn just because Cam went there
Posted on 1/17/25 at 5:03 pm to InkStainedWretch
quote:maybe Trump admin should give one to the NFL, NCAA, NBA, and NHL… sports cant be run like other businesses
This is a business and barring an antitrust exemption … which ain’t happening, people have regretted giving MLB one for 100 years …
Posted on 1/17/25 at 5:41 pm to chalmetteowl
Why not? Serious question.
And the president doesn't have that power.
And the president doesn't have that power.
This post was edited on 1/17/25 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 1/17/25 at 5:42 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Remember how you said athletes were getting nothing prior to all of this?
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I do not
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I never said that. You’re putting words in other peoples mouths to validate your own feelings
Oops.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 7:29 pm to InkStainedWretch
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And the president doesn't have that power.
If he doesn’t MAGA Congress probably does
Posted on 1/17/25 at 7:34 pm to InkStainedWretch
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Why not? Serious question.
In business, businesses try to put each other, well, out of business
In sports, every team needs the other teams to be thriving. The Yankees wouldn’t be who they are if the rest of their league was triple A.
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