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re: Nick Fairley...biggest bust from 2011 draft class?

Posted on 10/8/12 at 11:00 pm to
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 10/8/12 at 11:00 pm to
Bash Fairley thread turned into a bash Ingram thread.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
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Posted on 10/8/12 at 11:03 pm to
The answer to the OP has to be Gabbert. Fairley and Ingram may come in right behind him but I think he has 5 TD's and 5 TO's on the season and averaging like 150 yards per game. Plus I think he was taken ahead of the other 2.
Posted by Duke
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Posted on 10/8/12 at 11:04 pm to
I forgot Gabbert existed for the purposes of this thread. I'd say that's our winner.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Posted on 10/8/12 at 11:09 pm to
Tate (53rd overall) and Ridley (78th overall) are better than Ingram.

My uncle was calling Ingram "2 Yard" at the saints game last night.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 10/8/12 at 11:09 pm to
the best run Ive seen from Ingram this year was when he recovered Brees's fumble this week.

there was some really talented players in that draft looking back on it. JJ Watt is a baller. plus, Cam, Julio, Peterson, Von Miller, Marcel Dareus. ponder and locker are decent qbs.

pretty solid looking draft class
Posted by FlukerFlakes
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Posted on 10/8/12 at 11:18 pm to
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Cam


Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 10/8/12 at 11:26 pm to
quote:

Tate (53rd overall) and Ridley (78th overall) are better than Ingram.
Well, Ben Tate did claim to be the best running back in the state of Alabama back in the day...
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 10/8/12 at 11:27 pm to
AJ green, Aldon smith, Andy Dalton

Really solid class. Probably premature to call anyone a bust in their second year though
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 10/8/12 at 11:33 pm to
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Nick Fairley...biggest bust from 2011 draft class?


quote:

through 2 seasons he's totaled: 18 tackles 2 sacks


he also has been arrested twice.

Ingram should be riding our bench right now. Chris Ivory actually runs with some heart. Ingram still looks too tentative out there. Pierre Thomas and Darren Sproles are far more effective than Ingram in both running and catching the ball out of the backfield. I like Ingram but it seems like he just doesn't fit in with what the Saints do best.
Posted by crimson crazy
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Posted on 10/8/12 at 11:42 pm to
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I like Ingram but it seems like he just doesn't fit in with what the Saints do best.


Pass blocking and running routes?
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:01 am to


he did alright last year. I thought he was starting to get into a groove just before his injury.

If he's in the game, the other team knows its gonna be a run. I guess every once in a while me may fake it to him and try to hit a deep pass. We really don't use him in the screen game either. I wouldn't count on the creative play calling this year from the Saints either. I know the staff is trying to do their best but any time you lose the head coach, it obviously makes a difference. Especially a guy who is the best play caller in the game.

I guess Roger Goodell is happy
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 12:06 am
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:08 am to
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its fun watching thomas run. He is a slippery runner and extremely good at absorbing hits and just getting by them


Yeah his 9 carries for 30 yards was surreal.
Posted by faxis
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:15 am to
Fairly is human filth. Karma will handle him and seems to be busy as we speak.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:16 am to
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Yeah his 9 carries for 30 yards was surreal.


and he had 40 more yards receiving

Ingram just hasn't found his way in this offense yet. Pierre Thomas was an undrafted RB out of Illinois. He did far more damage earlier in his career than Ingram has. Hell, in his first start, he had over 100 yards rushing and 100 yards receiving against the Bears. The Saints have much better depth at RB on the team now and so that will cut into Ingram's production. But he has to make things happen more when his number is called. He looks tentative like he did in his first few games as a rookie.
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:38 am to
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5 TD's and 5 TO's

Still better than Matt Cassel. Would take Gabbert in KC
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
9326 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 2:27 am to
What has Marcel Dareus done besides be on a defense that just gave up over 1200 yards in the last 2 weeks?
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
66696 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 4:40 am to
Ingram never was that good. Just thrived on a great team. He did not deserve the heisman when he got it....


Everyone could see it.


Posted by dawg4lyfe
Member since May 2012
11662 posts
Posted on 10/9/12 at 6:22 am to
It's been only 1 year, let them have careers...
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/9/12 at 6:28 am to
Yeah the Cartman looking fatass sucks,and it couldn't have happened to a better pos.

As for Ingram,no running back is Gunna thrive in that system.
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