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re: NFL OT rule proposal that I never get a straight answer why not awesome

Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:33 pm to
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I think they should just play another 10, 12, or 15-minute period. Just play football some more.

This accomplishes nothing in a land-acquisition game. In a game like basketball, extra time is fine since the object changes possession hundreds of times throughout a game, whereas in football, possession often changes fewer than 20. Simply adding a period is nothing more than a waste of time.

My idea is better.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:34 pm to
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I like soccer rules. In the playoffs, they should add 15 minutes. If still a tie the sudden death.

75 minutes then sudden death accomplishes nothing that 60 minutes then sudden death doesn't accomplish.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:40 pm to
Sudden death should be a last resort in the playoffs in my opinion. NHL sudden death/golden goal rule works because it's a game where possession can change 10 times in less than a minute. NFL should find a happy medium between what they have now and college though.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83162 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:43 pm to
Your idea is stupid, just like the rest of your posts.

Unless you can provide concrete evidence to the contrary that's just the way it is. Stupid.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:49 pm to
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Unless you can provide concrete evidence to the contrary that's just the way it is.
If there's no coin toss, then the coin can't decide.

Don't be a little bitch.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83162 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:52 pm to
But there is a coin toss in your dumbass scenario. The initial coin toss determines who gets the ball first in overtime.

Like I said, it's fricking stupid.

Unless you have some form of research proving otherwise, it's idiotic.

Sweet melt though.
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 8:54 pm
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17360 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:00 pm to
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I think they should just play another 10, 12, or 15-minute period. Just play football some more.


Pretty much this.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:08 pm to
troll
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:12 pm to
No functional difference if you just add time. There has to be something built into the game to break the tie or we're not getting anywhere.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:13 pm to
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Simply adding a period is nothing more than a waste of time.

My idea is better.

Lol

never change
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83162 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:20 pm to
Calling out stupidity is trolling now?



Your idea is dumb. If you don't want to be called out for it keep it to yourself.

As a matter of fact, you should have just kept it to yourself in the first place because the more I think about it the more stupid it sounds.

Unless, of course, you have proof as to why it's not.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:26 pm to
You haven't answered the question, troll. If you don't, you're trolling.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47231 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:27 pm to
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Well that's mathematically false, but I love where your heart is at.


okay, a 50/50 coin toss leads to the winner only winning 30 ish % of the time on the first drive. How can it be mathematically false when the odds of winning the coin toss are greater than the odds of winning on the first drive?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:36 pm to
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okay, a 50/50 coin toss leads to the winner only winning 30 ish % of the time on the first drive. How can it be mathematically false when the odds of winning the coin toss are greater than the odds of winning on the first drive?
Regular season sudden death began in 1974. The team who won the toss won 52% of the time; the team who lost the toss won 43% of the time; the rest of the games ended in ties.

From 1994 until the rule change, the team who won the toss won over 60% of the time, as might be expected in the age as countless rule changes favored offense.

There is no reason that an outside object should influence the game this much, especially once the game is already in progress, which is why I propose that we play the same old sudden death but remove the coin from the overtime period and replace it with the two teams' strategies stacked against each other.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:57 pm to
bump
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47231 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:11 pm to
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Regular season sudden death began in 1974. The team who won the toss won 52% of the time; the team who lost the toss won 43% of the time; the rest of the games ended in ties.

From 1994 until the rule change, the team who won the toss won over 60% of the time, as might be expected in the age as countless rule changes favored offense.

There is no reason that an outside object should influence the game this much, especially once the game is already in progress, which is why I propose that we play the same old sudden death but remove the coin from the overtime period and replace it with the two teams' strategies stacked against each other.


your stats are flawed because the percentages that you cite include the 2nd possession of the team that won the coin toss. If the coin toss is whats unfair shouldnt that present itself in the very first possession? why should we care what happens after that very first possession if the coin toss is whats not fair?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:15 pm to
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bump
After only 20 minutes?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:22 pm to
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why should we care what happens after that very first possession if the coin toss is whats not fair?
Whoa. I'm not saying that it isn't fair. The coin has two sides; it couldn't be more fair.

Consider this: the team who wins the opening toss wins the game about 52% of the time. If you automatically give the overtime non-toss to the other team, then said 52% decreases if only slightly. This is a positive effect, since 50/50 would be the ideal situation.

Given that my plan brings a large sample size closer to 50/50, which is ideal, my plan is mathematically favorable.

The Gump troll in the thread can suck my balls now.
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 10:22 pm
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:26 pm to
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Winning a coin toss shouldn't provide such an advantage

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My idea solves this problem

No, your idea just gives the advantage to the team that loses a coin toss
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