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NFL and automatic first down

Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:03 pm
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:03 pm
Seems like every penalty on the D is an automatic first.

It's terrible.

Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:05 pm to
I've watched 3 drives on this football Sunday


NFL sucks
Posted by LACountyTiger
Los Angeles County
Member since Nov 2013
1338 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:30 pm to
The NFL has become unwatchable as far as Ike concerned.

Every time time a defender makes a halfway decent play, it seems like flags are flying.

And I agree that not every penalty should be an automatic first down.

This is the main reason why I have a hard time calling some of today's QBs among the best ever. The rules are skewed to the point where you have to be really bad to not put up huge numbers.
This post was edited on 10/4/15 at 8:31 pm
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33095 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:31 pm to
It's turned into complete crap.
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13533 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:31 pm to
It is all about the offense and scoring points
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:32 pm to
College football is a better watch at this point. I watch the saints because im programmed to do so and aaron rodgers every week and im fine with that. This has to hurt the product sooner or later.
Posted by LACountyTiger
Los Angeles County
Member since Nov 2013
1338 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

It is all about the offense and scoring points



I know. I'd like the defense to at least have a chance.
This post was edited on 10/4/15 at 8:34 pm
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
13531 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:33 pm to
Need a 3rd down conversion?
Toss it into traffic, wait for the illegal contact penalty.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37584 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:34 pm to
I'll catch Sunday Night Football every now and then, but other than that its a non watch for me. The product is absolutely terrible and the flags are a complete joke.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

Seems like every penalty on the D is an automatic first.


Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:36 pm to
The illegal hands to the face at the line of scrimmage and personal fouls for inadvertently touching the QB's helmet are unacceptable and should definitely not be automatic first downs.
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
13531 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:39 pm to
One of the things I absolutely love about hockey is the constant flow of action - teams only get one timeout per game, very few penalties in comparison to nfl/nba, very few pauses in the game for commercial breaks.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:45 pm to
They just had a full commercial break after a punt with 13 seconds left to go at the half. That sucks.

Of course, ESPN snuck in a commercial break after a kickoff during the LSU/EMU game too.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:47 pm to
In the oregon game last night they took a 4 minute commercial break and waited until the break was over to decide to review a play that was obviously called wrong on the field.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75215 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:47 pm to
College isn't that much better. Both are nowhere near where they were at one point.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17830 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:03 pm to
Bow season started this week.

I havenot watched a single snap today and I couldn't care less.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51611 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

College isn't that much better. Both are nowhere near where they were at one point.



Completely agree. I prefer the college game, but i'm not blind to the fact that it's a poor product as well.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16869 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:20 pm to
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And I agree that not every penalty should be an automatic first down.



The penalty doesn't fit the crime.

In a fair logical system, if
Defensive holding/Personal foul results in 1st downs, then Offensive holdings/personal foul should result in 4 downs.

It should go both ways, but we know NFL wants ratings and to give people what they want. Let's be honest, the average football is not that smart and NFL is just catering to them.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
33742 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:28 pm to
yeah, there are too many flags.

no doubt about it.

that shite is ruining the game.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31080 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

They just had a full commercial break after a punt with 13 seconds left to go at the half. That sucks.


The NFL has required ten commercial breaks per half for awhile now.

As far as scoring goes, the average NFL team scores 23.5 points in 2015.

99/127 DI teams average greater than 23.5 points per game. In fact, Baylor is one of the top teams in the country and averages 63.5 points per game. Yet, the NFL is the one encourages way too much offense.

The hypocrisy on this board is laughable. The southeast is a pocket where college football is more the NFL, but I think a lot of people on here are just butthurt the Saints suck.
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