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re: New Orleans Hornets and Jeff Bower mutually agree to part ways

Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:47 pm to
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what do you know HH comes out and says something similiar.


No he didn't. He's admitted to not having any inside info on what's going on, it's all gut feeling right now and he was feeling the exact opposite until the Vegas news broke. Vegas isn't a threat unless Chouest is throwing up his hands and walking away.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128032 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:49 pm to
Yes, that's what he said in the NEST.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120098 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:49 pm to
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Today I get the feeling that I couldn't be more wrong. Does this mean Shinn is staying? Does this mean the other potential ownership group I said might emerge is finally coming forward? Again, who knows? All I do know (and this is opinion) is that if George is staying, thats the worst case scenario I can think of (outside of selling to a Clay Bennett type of group that will come in and lie to us that they want to stay while they already have a deal to leave in place with Stern). With our lease ending soon, attendance clauses still in effect, and the prospects for a tough season, the ownership situation is more than concerning now.


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Finally, if you are going to make all of these major changes, shouldn't the sequence be owner, GM then coach? The Hornets are doing it backwards...unless God has told George to keep the team. If thats the case, he did the coach and GM backwards....but if George is staying...that makes sense I guess.

Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120098 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:50 pm to
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Yes, that's what he said in the NEST


yep

His feelings = info. I've been on that site a long time, I know the drill.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:52 pm to
Couldn't the NBA step in and make George sell? I mean he has to get NBA loans to pay for his roster. The NBA should be able to set a price.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128032 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:52 pm to
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His feelings = info. I've been on that site a long time, I know the drill.



Yup.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:52 pm to
The Hornets speculation vortex is getting stronger with each passing week. At least its entertainment for another 4 weeks.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120098 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:53 pm to
That actually could be a possibility...Stern tried to force Shinn into selling to an OKC group back during the relocation. By now they are tired of him and his act, they'd certainly want Chouest over him.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 1:58 pm to
I have no idea why George is stalling, he can't afford to own an NBA team. Get your money and go to church.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120098 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 2:02 pm to
yeah, it's pretty crazy. he's using up an NBA loan. there are a few possibilities...either he really thinks he can hold on, he is just being an arse during negotiations, or he's waiting for another group to deal with.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 2:05 pm to
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he's using up an NBA loan.


On the plus side, if Stern does want to make a power play that would probably give him all the leverage he needs.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 2:13 pm to
Even with Shinn being an unpopular owner, I would think it would be a PR disaster if the NBA tried to put the franchise into BK to force a sale. If he's really got cash flow isssues, they almost certainly haven't subsided, so their real leverage would be in potentially refusing to extend his loan. Its not fall 2008, he can certainly get another one, but its going to be prohibitively expensive (remember, he's about the bottom line) relative the NBA line.
Posted by crazytigerfan69
everywhere
Member since Apr 2004
5702 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 2:18 pm to
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I heard this afternoon from a prominent business person in the area with connections close to the owners that Chouest is done dealing with Shinn to purchase the team. He cannot reason with Shinn on multiple issues that were not discussed but I am sure we can figure out.

DING DING DING we have a winner
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 2:20 pm to
Well then I guess we're fricked and we can move on.
Posted by crazytigerfan69
everywhere
Member since Apr 2004
5702 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 2:22 pm to
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Well then I guess we're fricked and we can move on.

For now, but if Shinn can't pay payroll again Chouest will end up with majority ownership in a few seasons anyway.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103147 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 2:26 pm to
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Well then I guess we're fricked and we can move on.



For now, but if Shinn can't pay payroll again Chouest will end up with majority ownership in a few seasons anyway.


Let's hope that happens before CP3 is playing in MSG.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128032 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 2:26 pm to
FML

Well, that means the days of CP3 in a Hornets uni are well and truly fricked, even if Chouest owns it 3 years from now.

Ah well.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 2:28 pm to
If he really needs Chouest to pay the payroll, I'm assuming he's just going to wait until Shinn needs the liquidity and force him into a sale.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120098 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 2:34 pm to
whelp better than never.
Posted by crazytigerfan69
everywhere
Member since Apr 2004
5702 posts
Posted on 7/14/10 at 2:34 pm to
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Let's hope that happens before CP3 is playing in MSG.

I'm not against trading him if we get something good in return or can package Okafor.

Don't be surprised if CP3 is gone before all-star break.
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