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re: ND AD Swarbrick: "There’s Still One Chapter To Come..." (Re: Conf. Realignment).
Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:13 am to ACT
Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:13 am to ACT
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Giving 1 and 2 a bye would keep the value of the regular season as well.
If they were planning on playing after the regular season maybe, but if they wait until Jan like now, who cares about a bye?
4 is plenty.
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Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:16 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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Wouldn't you think championship merchandise sales (and other revenues associated with winning national titles) would need to be included in such money talk?
No. that amounts to peanuts compared to TV money. Besides, teams in other BCS bowls also sell additional MDSE. Hell I bought an LSU Cotton bowl Champs shirt with the score so I could wear it around Aggies
Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:22 am to H-Town Tiger
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but if they wait until Jan like now, who cares about a bye?
One less game to maybe lose.
Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:25 am to Master of Sinanju
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One less game to maybe lose.
or 1 more week of not playing to get rusty. Seriously, using byes as an incentive to say the regular season is important is a bit of a stretch. If you want 6 teams, just go to 8. No real difference between #6, 7 and 8 anyway.
Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:31 am to H-Town Tiger
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We are not talking about 10's of millions of dollars.
i'd guesstimate the revenue of a playoff home game would have to be at least $10M
we clear $3-4M on average for a regular season game. it's going to be more for a playoff game
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TV money will dwarf that anyway.
assuming that we stay in "regular season" rates, $4M extra is the athletic budget of some D1A CFB teams. even for a school like LSU that's not chump change
Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:35 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:How so? If you're in a tight race for the number 2 slot, then every game (quality opponent, margin of victory) is more meaningful.
bit of a stretch
Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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assuming that we stay in "regular season" rates, $4M extra is the athletic budget of some D1A CFB teams. even for a school like LSU that's not chump change
OK, so we clear $4-5M for a home playoff game. You can negotiate the terms in the contracts, have indepente auditors look at if you are worried someone is holding out. It would be a tad suspicious if say LSU makes 3-4M a home game and then suddenly claims they only made 1M for a playoff game. The operations costs for that game would not be that much higher. There is no credible way you could use "hollywood" accounting without getting caught.
You could also agree before hand that the revenue for all playoff games would be put in a pot and divided equally, minus ops costs. Its not an insumountable issue. You just don't want anything but the BCS and are reaching for reasons to oppose anything else.
Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:52 am to ACT
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How so? If you're in a tight race for the number 2 slot, then every game (quality opponent, margin of victory) is more meaningful.
Its a stretch because getting a bye, especailly if the games for all teams are played a month later is not tha big of a deal. 7 of the last 10 SB have had a team that did not get a bye.
Posted on 4/24/12 at 11:56 am to H-Town Tiger
Sorry if this was covered in the thread, but doesn't the Pac 10 divvy up the cash from their title game? People aren't going to travel for quarters in an eight team playoff and I think semis is iffy, unless it's close by. Plus, I think higher seeds should be rewarded, so I like the home game idea. Let's see an SEC squad take on Corch Mayas in the Shoe. It would be ridonkulous.
This post was edited on 4/24/12 at 11:57 am
Posted on 4/24/12 at 12:16 pm to H-Town Tiger
Yes but teams still covet the bye. And to assume the games will start weeks later is a stretch also. I believe the NC game will be played around new years which would put the playoff starting weeks earlier. The bye would be very valuable.
Posted on 4/24/12 at 12:56 pm to ACT
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Yes but teams still covet the bye
I don't know that the teams do as much as media/fans, its a nice bonus, but not that big of a deal.
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And to assume the games will start weeks later is a stretch also
Maybe, but they are never going to give up the conference championship games, that's the first week of Dec, could be as late as Dec 7th. Are you going to play week one playoffs on 12/14, then the next round Jan 1? If so, who cares about the bye.
Posted on 4/24/12 at 1:33 pm to H-Town Tiger
You dont think coaches want the extra week of preparation? Also, It isnt feasible to start the ncaa playoffs so late because then you have to compete with nfl playoffs.
Posted on 4/24/12 at 2:45 pm to arwicklu
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8 teams with 2 at large makes a lot of sense. The 6 power conferences get their money so they'll be happy. The 2 best at large teams get in which will often be two top 5 teams. Last year it would have been Bama and Stanford with the at large spots (ranked 2 and 4). It gives teams like Boise and TCU a shot as well.
I can live with this concept if you reduce it from 6 power conference bids to 5 (sorry Big East) and from 2 AL to 3 AL. This is especially appropriate with West Virginia, Pitt, and Syracuse leaving the Big East. The Big East has absolutely no business being gauranteed a spot in a BCS championship playoff.
You could also take this a step further and gaurantee that 1 of the 3 AL bids goes to the best (highest ranked) non-AQ conference champion i.e. a Boise State as long as they are ranked in the Top 10 in the final BCS poll. That seems like the best compromise.
I could live with the 6 team playoff with #1 and #2 getting byes if and only if the teams are chosen by final BCS ranking without regard to whether they won their conference or not.
A 4 team playoff only consisting of only winners of 16 team conferences is a horrible idea that will ruin college football. I don't ever want to see college football go the route of the horribly uneven divisional format of the NFL, MLB, and NBA where there are terrible divisions that get into the playoffs and host games ( example: 2010/2011 Seattle Seahawks (7-9) hosting 10-6 New Orleans in the playoffs).
Posted on 4/24/12 at 3:18 pm to rocket31
Posted on 4/24/12 at 3:23 pm to Govt Tide
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I could live with the 6 team playoff with #1 and #2 getting byes if and only if the teams are chosen by final BCS ranking without regard to whether they won their conference or not.
that's crap - you should still be potentially eligible if you don't win your conference... but the idea you should be allowed to host a game or get a bye? absolutely not
Posted on 4/24/12 at 3:27 pm to ToesOnTheNose213
I like the Top 6.
2 highest ranked conference champions get first round byes. (this keeps conf champ important)
4 highest ranked teams remaining play in a 3 vs 6 / 4 vs 5.
The lowest ranked winner plays #1.
Too easy.
2 highest ranked conference champions get first round byes. (this keeps conf champ important)
4 highest ranked teams remaining play in a 3 vs 6 / 4 vs 5.
The lowest ranked winner plays #1.
Too easy.
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