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re: NBA top 60 greatest players (top 50+10 current players)
Posted on 5/31/10 at 7:29 am to lsu480
Posted on 5/31/10 at 7:29 am to lsu480
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Lol....Chauncy made CP3 his BITCH!
please he didn't even guard CP, Coach Karl was the reason they beat us, if he had let everyone guard their postion CP would have killed him
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Posted on 5/31/10 at 7:32 am to AlejandroInHouston
quote:It's debatable for sure. If I had to argue for Wilkens, he was 2nd in assists all-time when he retired (behind Robertson). Also, in the early 1970's, he led the league in assists and was a player-coach (some would say that the -coach part of that shouldn't count, but I'd bet that it got him some votes).
ETA: On the original 50 list, was Lenny Wilkens really more deserving than Dominique or Rodman?
Posted on 5/31/10 at 7:40 am to Sammobile
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please he didn't even guard CP, Coach Karl was the reason they beat us, if he had let everyone guard their postion CP would have killed him
CP3 was pedestrian that whole series. I can't believe you're defending him. Jones and Billups fricking embarrassed him all 4 losses.
I will give you that he wasn't 100% and didn't have the talent to quite match up, but do you forget that CP3 presided over the worst home tank job in NBA Playoff history?
Horrible. CP3 has let 2 teams quit on him in back to back years.
Am I the only one who remembers Nate Robinson humiliating CP3 in MSG late last regular season? He was literally taunting Chris throughout the 2nd Half, then backing it up repeatedly. I could not believe what I was watching. It was literally stunning, and it carried over into this season. Chris has not been the same player that he was in the 2007/08 playoffs.
This post was edited on 5/31/10 at 7:43 am
Posted on 5/31/10 at 7:43 am to xiv
Yeah I always thought Lenny was extremely overrated as a coach. Was just assuming that maybe he was overrated as a player as well.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 7:45 am to AlejandroInHouston
I think you're being a little hard on Paul, but this will be a big make-or-break year for him. He needs to bring the Hornets back to contender status quick, or he'll be more of a Howard Eisley and less of an Isiah Thomas.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 7:52 am to AlejandroInHouston
quote:I actually disagree in a way. I think that among hardcore sports fans, he's significantly underrated.
Yeah I always thought Lenny was extremely overrated as a coach.
In 1977, the 5-17 Sonics fired their coach and hired Wilkens as a quick replacement; they went to the NBA Finals that year. They won it all the next year. They lost in the conference finals the year after that.
In the mid-80's, he went to Cleveland, where it was impossible to compete with Boston and Detroit in the east at the time. Then he went to Atlanta in the 1990's, where it was impossible to compete with Chicago, New York, and Orlando in the east.
Then Toronto, then New York. Mostly, he was coaching for organizations who didn't give him great players. If he and Phil Jackson merely switched places, I think their fates would be switched, too.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 8:14 am to EkarDrake
No Kobe, No Problems, right?
Posted on 5/31/10 at 10:18 am to Bench McElroy
McGrady over Billups? Come on I know Billups wasn't a phenomenon on the court, but at the end of the day he did win a championship and for a number of years he was one of the best in the league. He was a leader. McGrady was a scorer. The guy has never made it past the 1st round.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 10:28 am to EkarDrake
Chauncey Billips does surprise me a lot.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 10:30 am to Akit1
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McGrady was a scorer. The guy has never made it past the 1st round.
BILLIPS made his team better. Tracy, Not so much.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 10:35 am to EkarDrake
51. NIQUE!
This post was edited on 5/31/10 at 10:38 am
Posted on 5/31/10 at 10:43 am to ATLTiger
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51. NIQUE
SHAME!!!
Posted on 5/31/10 at 10:49 am to lsu480
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(Posted on 5/31/10 at 1:04 a.m. to AlexLSU)
You going to the Finals games?
I wouldn't be surprised if Alex has never been to LA
Posted on 5/31/10 at 11:21 am to AlejandroInHouston
Payton >>>>>>>> Billups
Posted on 5/31/10 at 11:28 am to iwyLSUiwy
quote:
Payton >>>>>>>> Billups
OK!!!
Posted on 5/31/10 at 11:28 am to iwyLSUiwy
quote:
Payton >>>>>>>> Billups
Easily.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 1:09 pm to EkarDrake
Reggie Miller definitely belongs somewhere in the top 50 IMO.
This post was edited on 5/31/10 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 5/31/10 at 2:17 pm to mattz1122
Gary Payton is not an active player. He would be a slam dunk choice to be on the list if he was though.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 3:07 pm to AlejandroInHouston
quote:
CP3 was pedestrian for one game in that series.
Come on now, you're being a little too harsh here. The whole team quit on the coach, and except for Game 4, Paul played his usual game:
Game 1: 21, 11, 5, 2
Game 2: 14, 13, 4, 0
Game 3: 32, 12, 5, 1
Game 5: 12, 10, 6, 3
That's hardly "pedestrian," especially considering he was the only one on the court the Nuggets really had to worry about guarding. Their whole game-plan was to stop him.
Granted, he was very bad in Game 4; but then again, so was everybody.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 5:18 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Billups being better then T-Mac is the dumbest shyt I have ever heard. I bet you think Willie Parker is better then LT.
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