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re: NBA Offseason Trade & FA thread: KD To Ws, Wade to Bulls

Posted on 6/22/16 at 5:16 pm to
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/22/16 at 5:16 pm to
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One team making the playoffs and one not is, by definition, one team advancing further in the playoffs.


You've been here since '08. You should know that's not how these things work on this site.

One could make the argument that if the Pels made the playoffs but lose in the first round, they never advanced in the playoffs and therefore did not advance farther than the Rockets.

It's very easy to play around with the terms unless you back them in a corner.
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 5:34 pm
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 5:23 pm to
I wonder why you used jrue as your comparison... your pels trolling is robotic at this point.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 5:25 pm to
Gasol and Noah won't be back. Butler won't be traded IMO. All year long it was reported that butler and rose couldn't get along. Rose is gone now. It's butlers team.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 5:28 pm to
He's a league average starting PG. Ranked outside the top 10 but better than the low teens.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13533 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 5:36 pm to
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One year left on his deal. Nice gamble for Knicks.

Yeah I like the deal for the Knicks. Most people will criticize it because of Rose's injuries though


Yea, of course people will see Knicks and Derrick rose and just laugh and say what a joke.

But it's really not a bad move. You give up Lopez and Calderon for Rose on his last year of contract. If he struggles or gets hurt then you let him go, if he ends up working out then it was a cheap move with a high reward
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 6:28 pm to
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If he struggles or gets hurt then you let him go, if he ends up working out then it was a cheap move with a high reward




If you flip Melo for Love you actually get nice spacing.
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10243 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 6:31 pm to
If cavs traded love for a draft pick I would be disgusted.

A college player isn't mentally ready for championship basketball nor physically. The first year when you go from a 35 game season to 100 including playoff basketball you can't prepare for that. No repeat team should ever consider something so dumb.
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11725 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 6:35 pm to
Yeah I am not seeing how this is a bad trade for NY. They gave up dog shite and get to test drive a former league MVP in a contract year while also having a pick thrown in.

Worse case scenario you get a development player and over 20 mill in cap space next offseason.
Posted by philabuck
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2008
10391 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 6:35 pm to
I don't think they care about a draft prospect, but getting a couple role players, trade pieces, and freeing up cap space would be a plus.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 6:51 pm to
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If cavs traded love for a draft pick I would be disgusted.

A college player isn't mentally ready for championship basketball nor physically. The first year when you go from a 35 game season to 100 including playoff basketball you can't prepare for that. No repeat team should ever consider something so dumb.



Pretty sure I said Love for Carmelo Anthony.
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 6:55 pm to
I would be ok with melo for love. I think that could work. Maybe? Lol
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:22 pm to
Classic Knicks move. They're trash for a reason.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:29 pm to
The Knicks are the guy that wife's up the slutty girl that everyone else on the circle of friends banged when she was in her prime but the Knicks get her with a couple kids and 20 extra lbs.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91347 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 7:36 pm to
Meh, it's a big name and the Knicks so it gets plenty of air time, but it's a low-risk, high-reward move. If the Knicks traded Lopez and Grant for a mid 1st round pick people wouldn't give a shite, but when the do it for Rose they come out of the woodworks to criticize.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46690 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:03 pm to
problem is rose is barely replacement level and you could argue Calderon is the better player at the moment. Call that a wash, but they also gave up Lopez on a great contract who is a far better player than he gets credit for especially on defense, and grant who might turn out to be something (and who was an asset even if he doesn't).

bulls got the better of this especially since rose had zero leverage and they were 100% not re-signing him
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:12 pm to
Rose averaged 22/6/6 for a whole month only a couple months ago. Calderon is barely in the league. Hanging on by a count hair. He's not even close to rose. Even at his best he wasn't in the same league as current day rose.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46690 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:24 pm to
a whole month?
he's played like 100 games in the past four years combined
he was electrifying before he got hurt but now he's just a guy
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:28 pm to
Rose is the poster boy for what happens when to a player when there athleticism goes...what's his skill besides blowing by guys?

Mid Range shooting?
Posted by BayouBengal6884
Lafourche Parish
Member since Dec 2013
618 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 8:57 pm to
He played 66 games and averaged 16 ppg last season

Calderon averaged 7ppg

I'd say that's an upgrade...even if he gets hurt it's worth the risk
This post was edited on 6/22/16 at 8:59 pm
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
91332 posts
Posted on 6/22/16 at 9:13 pm to
Spurs fans, explain the Mike Conley interest. Is Parker leaving or something?
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