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re: NBA Labor Talks End; Back to Square One
Posted on 10/20/11 at 9:16 pm to Circle K Beggar
Posted on 10/20/11 at 9:16 pm to Circle K Beggar
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At least those kids play hard every game and play to get to the NBA
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Posted on 10/20/11 at 9:25 pm to shuke33
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no one gives a shite with football going right now
That's so bull. What do you watch on Tuesday's/Wednesday nights? X factor?
I reread Wittgenstein. I attend the ballet. I paint pretty pictures of butterflies and daffodils.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 9:27 pm to Kafka
And SFP is here to tell us all about how evil the owners are as usual. 
frick the players. Nail their asses to the wall.
frick the players. Nail their asses to the wall.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 10:17 pm to Fun Bunch
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frick the players. Nail their asses to the wall.
So you believe there should be limits on what someone is allowed to make? You sound just like the Occupy Wall Street protestors.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 10:20 pm to Fun Bunch
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And SFP is here to tell us all about how evil the owners are as usual.
i never said they were evil
they were stupid and they are refusing to work amongst each oher
Posted on 10/20/11 at 10:22 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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So you believe there should be limits on what someone is allowed to make? You sound just like the Occupy Wall Street protestors.
this is one of the dumber analogies ive heard lately.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 10:22 pm to Bestbank Tiger
The frick? It's the exact opposite. I think the owners should be allowed to make more profit.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 10:23 pm to Fun Bunch
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I think the owners should be allowed to make more profit.
or A profit in some cases. revenue sharing would do wonders for them though.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 10:54 pm to volfan30
I really want to see someone give Lebron a shot at Tight End now that the NBA season is probably out the window, also CP3 and maybe Rondo at KR and maybe 3rd down RB.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
I wanna see true capitalism play out...the owners should and will win
The players have a choice of going overseas, and if they do the owners will laugh at them
The players have a choice of going overseas, and if they do the owners will laugh at them
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:17 pm to Ford Frenzy
Please American owners are trying to ruin regulation in European Soccer. If the NBA had regulation Clippers would of been demoted a long time ago
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:21 pm to StrongSafety
I won't really care about the NBA not playing until after the Super Bowl. Until then, I can get my basketball fix watching college.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 11:32 pm to UnluckyTiger
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Time to start watching the NHL guys.
My fricking team is in Canada now
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:27 am to Ford Frenzy
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I wanna see true capitalism play out...the owners should and will win
What the frick are you talking about? What in the NBA or American sports in general is "true capitalism"?
The owners are already benefiting from a ceiling on player salaries. The worst teams draft players first. New players in the league can't decide where they want to play. Rookie's contract value is based on a sliding scale predetermined for 3/2 years depending on when they were drafted. The owners aren't fighting for "true capitalism."
Posted on 10/21/11 at 12:31 am to Fun Bunch
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I think the owners should be allowed to make more profit.
It's not about the owner's making more profit. The owner's already have plenty of opportunities to make profits, if they're capable of running a franchise correctly.
What the owners want is a guaranteed profit, regardless of how shitty they manage their teams. Why should the players insulate the owners from losses? All you're going to get is more franchises like the Clippers with owners who refuse to pay for good players and who are only interested in maximizing the profit of their team at the detriment to the league as a whole.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 1:33 am to volfan30
I'm on the owners side for the NBA lockout.
Was on the players for the NFL
The players don't really have someone like Demaurice Smith representing them.
Was on the players for the NFL
The players don't really have someone like Demaurice Smith representing them.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 7:04 am to SlowFlowPro
really could care less until maybe after valentines day.
nba is a tad bit too long IMHO. it's not boring per say as it's just too much of it.
one of my fav seasons was the strike shortened 2000 season
nba is a tad bit too long IMHO. it's not boring per say as it's just too much of it.
one of my fav seasons was the strike shortened 2000 season
Posted on 10/21/11 at 7:14 am to jturn17
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What the owners want is a guaranteed profit, regardless of how shitty they manage their teams. Why should the players insulate the owners from losses?
this is pretty much the argument in a nutshell
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All you're going to get is more franchises like the Clippers with owners who refuse to pay for good players and who are only interested in maximizing the profit of their team at the detriment to the league as a whole.
yeah the CBA they want is now going to incentivize more clippers-type situations
the profits will be all but guaranteed, and i doubt a team like the clippers in another market will see marked improvement in profits if they increase spending (b/c even with more revenue, the player costs will eat this up)
NBA salaries can't even increase. they are capped at 57% of league revenue. these salaries aren't spiraling out of control, like people portray them to be. also, the owners BROKE the players last time and got THE EXACT CBA THEY WANTED. the last CBA wasn't some sweetheart deal for the players, b/c their union was broken and they sat back and took whatever the NBA owners wanted.
...10 years later what happens? the owners frick it up and claim poverty and blame the players
i don't see how anyone can support the owners, especially b/c the only real issue is revenue sharing, and the owners refuse to address this, for the most part
Posted on 10/21/11 at 7:19 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:i support using leverage when you have it. the owners have leverage
i don't see how anyone can support the owners
owners dont need basketball to be rich. most of the players have nothing else to fall back on.
Posted on 10/21/11 at 7:26 am to Rouge
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i support using leverage when you have it. the owners have leverage
i mean objectively in the argument v argument sense
not in the macheavellian sense
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owners dont need basketball to be rich
i think a lot of NBA owners rely on their teams to be rich. jerry buss has the lakers and nothing
many others have leveraged themselves with debt associated with their team. those bills are going to be due with or without a season.
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