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re: NBA is terrible
Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:58 am to Raoul Stimulato
Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:58 am to Raoul Stimulato
90's NBA sucked.
Not enough talent for all the late 80's and early 90's expansion. Once the European players started coming over it got better.
Not enough talent for all the late 80's and early 90's expansion. Once the European players started coming over it got better.
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 1:36 pm to Raoul Stimulato
I'm a Denver Nuggets fan, what are you talking about the NBA is great, never been better 
Every team has a super star that rarely dunks, like to pass, rebounds like a machine and can score from anywhere on the floor....well Denver does.
Every team has a super star that rarely dunks, like to pass, rebounds like a machine and can score from anywhere on the floor....well Denver does.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:30 pm to The1TrueTiger
I’m happy you’re happy!
Even crap movies with 30% on Rotten Tomatoes have their devotees!
Not all things are for all people.
Even crap movies with 30% on Rotten Tomatoes have their devotees!
Not all things are for all people.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 3:04 pm to Pels318
The Mavs played without Luka last night and beat the Knicks 128-124. Kyrie had 44 points & 10 assists. Tim Hardaway Jr had 32 points. Josh Green had 18 & Grant Williams had 11. The Mavs made 17 three point shots.
With no Luka or Dereck Lively II, and the Knicks on a five game winning streak, I was worried.
The Mavs had a 44-26 lead at the end of the 1st quarter. They blew a 20 point lead when NY went on a 2nd half run, but the Mavs held them off.
Bally Sports highlights
It was a fun game to watch.
With no Luka or Dereck Lively II, and the Knicks on a five game winning streak, I was worried.
The Mavs had a 44-26 lead at the end of the 1st quarter. They blew a 20 point lead when NY went on a 2nd half run, but the Mavs held them off.
Bally Sports highlights
It was a fun game to watch.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 3:16 pm to Pels318
Very bland and boring league. Outlawing defense and officiating post play out of the game has created a simple and boring product.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 3:29 pm to Madking
I find these takes funny when the ball is in motion for 10 minutes of a 3.5 hour football game since it’s essentially all play clock and commercials. Add in the officiating people go nuts about weekly and you have to scratch your head on these takes for other sports
Posted on 1/12/24 at 3:40 pm to HippieTiger
What’s funny is your copy paste argument about football being injected into every sports thread where it doesn’t fit or make any sense. You don’t like football we get it but your post is totally irrelevant to this topic or what I posted.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:06 pm to Madking
I personally think it’s relevant so frick off. Also, learn how to properly structure a sentence little baw
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:07 pm to Madking
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Outlawing defense
LINK?
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and officiating post play out of the game
Uh..what?
Officiating post play out of the league? Math got post play out of the league
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
That baw is so painfully ignorant
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:35 pm to HippieTiger
But it isn’t at all.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
You’re so ignorant it’s comical
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:40 pm to Madking
They removed hand checking, but instituted zone D and the shed 20% of the offense's time to cross halfcourt.
Zone D has been more pro-defense than anything anti-defense that's been enacted. The rules have become more favorable for defense.
Don't believe me? Ask the stars of the Jordan and dead ball era.
LINK
LINK
Zone D has been more pro-defense than anything anti-defense that's been enacted. The rules have become more favorable for defense.
Don't believe me? Ask the stars of the Jordan and dead ball era.
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Michael Jordan- "I never liked zones," Jordan said. "I felt like that's a lazy way to play defense and with them, you can eliminate a lot of the stars making things happen."
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Tracy McGrady- "To me, it's frustrating because I love to entertain. I mean, you play a zone on me like that and I don't know if you guys (media) realize that, or the fans realize that, but my job is real tough when a team zones up on us. I can't do anything."
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KICKS: If you guys could change one rule in the League, what would it be?
KG: No zone.
TD: Yeah, the zone.
KG: If there was one rule I could change today, it would be the zone. Go back to the [looking down], Am I, am I, am I straddling the line?
Jess [Kersey]: “Hey, you’re on the line! Illegal defense, ’cause you…”
TD: Three seconds.
TM: That shite is stupid.
KICKS: Because it didn’t do what they thought it would do?
KG: I think it puts players that are really good at a disadvantage, so to speak. Everybody here gets double-teams, if not triple-teams, so we can all speak on this. But it sorta—I remember Phoenix sat somebody literally right there [in the lane].
TM: It makes it hard for a guy like me—
KG: —who penetrates.
TD: It makes it hard for all of us.
KG: All of us. Dog, Phoenix sat a person right here! Don’t you go nowhere, Bo Outlaw, you stay right here.
TM: Yeah, but you also got a guy like Troy Hudson who can shoot the ball, Wally can shoot the ball, you know what I’m sayin’? Y’all have guys that can create, for themselves. Me? [Shakes head]
KG: Not always. [Laughter all around]
TM: Me?
TD: You’re the best in the League, man, you do it all yourself. [More laughter]
TM: It’s tough on all of us, it really is. When you’re tryin’ to make a move, and you got another guy sittin’ right there on the same side just waitin’…
KG: Waitin’ on you!
TM: Just waitin’.
KG: He ain’t even playin’ his man!
TM: Nah, not at all.
KG: That’s where teammates are really, really important. Not only is there pressure on you to get them the ball, but the pressure’s on them to be productive and draw the defense.
LINK
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
And Shaq says the NBA was easier than college but those are just preferential opinions not fact and your hand checking vs zone comment is false. If zone was the better D all colleges would play it but the truth is it’s easier to break a zone because it has built in deficiencies. The reason it’s played now in the NBA is because players are underdeveloped in terms of understanding the game, post play has been officiated out of the game and there are zero continuous offenses in the league for the same reason. You can’t say on one hand that defenses are better now while offensive numbers are exploding.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 1/12/24 at 4:56 pm to Madking
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If zone was the better D all colleges would play it but the truth is it’s easier to break a zone because it has built in deficiencies.
A college zone with college players, maybe.
The NBA has incredibly advanced defenses these days, which make comparisons to the 80s-00s so silly. Go watch defense back in those days. It was simplistic crap.
Today is all movement, action, strategy, and intelligence. Not one-on-one street ball.
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The reason it’s played now in the NBA is because players are underdeveloped in terms of understanding the game
Literally the most complicated and complex time in NBA history and you're saying players don't understand the game
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You can’t say on one hand that offense is much better now while at the same time saying defenses are better.
Yes you can. Offense is just that much better.
If Defense improved 25% but offense improved 125%, offense will out-pace the defensive improvements.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 5:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
The offensive players are in college as well so that’s not a point at all and your opinion on the complexity of the game is also false. There aren’t complex defenses and offense being played, NBA offenses are simply an exploitation of there being no defense. Every team does the same thing, put the ball in your best players hand and since you can’t touch him he can get by any defender causing help, the ball is then moved ahead of the rotation until an open 3 is there. That’s elementary basketball it’s not complex at all simply because you have to make a few passes.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 1/12/24 at 5:07 pm to Madking
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There aren’t complex defenses and offense being played,
Literally wrong.
Go back and watch some offenses from the late 90s and dead ball era and tell me how complex one on one streetball is.
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That’s elementary basketball it’s not complex at all simply because you have to make a few passes.
If it's so simple, then why didn't teams do it when the defenses made this sort of offense even easier?
You're not making any sense. Literally.
You want to talk elementary? Look at this defense
Simplistic street ball. No ball movement. The skill level is so far devolved from the modern game as well. Passing, shooting, and on-court intelligence/strategy is just so inferior.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 5:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
That’s a deflection, I never said the early 2000s offenses were complex. Your still picks also do not bolster your point, they don’t show anything. So far you haven’t offered any explanation or examples to support your points.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 1/12/24 at 5:18 pm to Madking
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So far you haven’t offered any explanation or examples to support your points.
Classic Madking
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