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re: NBA Free Agency Thread: Day 21

Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:32 pm to
Posted by corndeaux
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:32 pm to
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These unwarranted massive contracts a ton of these guys are getting


Not unwarranted. Player salaries are tied to BRI. 50/50 split, if the players are getting more, so are the owners. Teams are expecting the cap to go up at least $10M over the next few years after 3 years of stagnation. If you increase the cap, the numbers come out roughly to the same % of cap space.

That said, I could easily see the owners locking out again. But they won't have as much of a case after Ballmer, after the Bucks and Kings got .5 billion, after a massive new tv deal. Will be hard to cry losses at that point
Posted by RTR America
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:35 pm to
Again I understand the salary cap increases and such (I posted an article about on here a few days ago). I'm just saying there have been some BAD contracts so far.
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:35 pm to
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NBAPA already warned the players to try to make extra money because they expecting a lockout within the next 2 or 3 years


Nah that was just financial advice in case.

It's precaution.
Posted by floridatigah
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:36 pm to
If the public is on the owner's side again because Jodie Meeks got 7M instead of 4M while the Clippers go for 2 billion, I swear to god...
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:37 pm to
Just relaying what I have seen on twitter post like half of these contracts being announced
Posted by GeauxAggie972
Poterbin Residence
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:37 pm to
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If they believe that, I mean TRULY believe that, then I hope they don't move him and he exits stage left after this season with Minny getting absolutely nothing in return. Such a high degree of idiocy should never be rewarded with anything but disappointment.


This

They should be looking to get rid of him now. Because come February when they are at the bottom of the NBA again, they are going to get worse offers than they are now because teams will know he is going to walk anyway
Posted by corndeaux
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:37 pm to
I dunno. I havent seen any Calvin Booth head scratchers yet. Some questionable moves, but I dont think Frye or Bradley are outrageous. I'm probably forgetting some, but Collison is the worst deal I can recall.

Edit: Meeks is fairly ridiculous. But Detroit cant shoot, has tons of cap space, and SVG helped turn Redick into.a solid 2 way player
This post was edited on 7/7/14 at 9:40 pm
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:39 pm to
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I dunno. I havent seen any Calvin Booth head scratchers yet. Some questionable moves, but I dont think Frye or Bradley are outrageous. I'm probably forgetting some, but Collison is the worst deal I can recall



Meeks
Ben Gordon
Gortat
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:39 pm to
I didn't think the Collison deal was too bad

ETA: the 5 year part of Gortat's is the worst to me
This post was edited on 7/7/14 at 9:40 pm
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:39 pm to
5 mil for him isn't even that absurd.

Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:42 pm to
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Ben Gordon


One year for 4.5 isn't bad at all. If he shows he can still play, you flip him to a contender for asset. If not, you just void the unguaranteed 2nd year.


quote:

Gortat


The $$ is fine. The years are stupid. I feel like Washington shouldn't be included in this discussion. Cant wait for Ariza to get 4/$46
Posted by c on z
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:43 pm to
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Cant wait for Ariza to get 4/$46

Whatever it takes to keep yourself in playoff contention.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:45 pm to
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5 mil for him isn't even that absurd


Its more about choosing Collison over Thomas. That is just crazy to me. Giving Collison 3/15 to run your offense over IT is nuts.
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:46 pm to
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Meeks


About 2 mil more than he's worth. He would've likely gotten the MLE.

quote:

Ben Gordon


2nd year isn't guarunteed IIRC. Magic aren't going anywhere this year and could move him as an expiring?

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Gortat


Overpaid by about 2 mil imo

Been a 15/10 guy per 36 his whole career with 56% FG.



Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:46 pm to
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Its more about choosing Collison over Thomas. That is just crazy to me. Giving Collison 3/15 to run your offense over IT is nuts.



And considering their offer to Thomas is apparently laughably low
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:47 pm to
They're gonna ditch IT though possibly(who the frick knows with sac)

Could be a good sixth man
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:49 pm to
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And considering their offer to Thomas is apparently laughably low


I don't really get that either, but I think Collison got a fair deal.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:55 pm to
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Could be a good sixth man


Yeah. I get the holdups about his size, but dude puts up 20+ and 6 given minutes on solid %s. He's a player.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:56 pm to
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?@JaredZwerling 1m
Couple players I talked to think NY for Melo (just gut). "West too tough." "Kobe's aging." "Don't think Rose is on board." $$ and Phil sold.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:57 pm to
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Collison got a fair deal.


Collison had a couple nice games in the playoffs and is cashing in. Good for him.

Yet he couldnt cut it in Indy or Dallas as a starter. Not sure why it will work in Sacramento.
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