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re: NBA Free Agency Thread: Day 21

Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:06 am to
Posted by LSUTigKyl
Nashville
Member since May 2009
1910 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:06 am to
quote:

Irving, Lebron, and Love are a better trio than Wade, Lebron and Bosh.


First of all you don't even know that. That trio might be better than Wade/LBJ/Bosh were in their final 3 games together, but the Heat trio was incredible for 3 years and 2 games into a 4th finals. Do you even remember the first two years of LBJ and Wade? They were the scariest thing we've ever seen on the break.

Irving hasn't been any more healthy than Wade, and Love for all of his glory has never been in the playoffs.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37009 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:15 am to
I'm fairly certain it does. He will still have a cap hold of 15mil on the books for them though. So if they got rid of everyone else on the roster they'd still have ~15m cap hold for Love, ~15m salary for Kyrie, 21.6m salary for LeBron. That's ~52m, plus minimum cap holds for the rest of the roster is about 4.5m. They may have ~10mil to sign one complimentary player.
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
7162 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:22 am to
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So are the Cavs that nervous they couldn't sign Love next season?


Thats my issue. I dont care what Love says, Im not giving up Wiggins, Bennett and picks knowing that in the end, I could end up only have Kevin Love for 1 year. No gonna do it. Especially with the reports of GS taking Klay's name out of talks fro Love. The Wiggins rumors sound even stupider to me knowing that. The Cavs increase their offer as GS decreases theirs??

quote:

They gain $9 mil from Varejao's contract ending, I guess LeBron could rework his deal if he really wanted Love, and you could trade one of the younger guys (Bennett, Thompson, Waiters) and shouldn't that be enough?


Andy getting 10 million this year is absurd. Tristan is due 7 million next year. Would take Andy back if he comes back for about 5-7 million. Not penny more.
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:23 am to
Being traded usually cancels out the whole bird right thing I thought? You have to be with the team for a few years


I could be wrong though

Just looked it up. Pretty sure I'm wrong
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 8:26 am
Posted by philabuck
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2008
10394 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:24 am to
Kyrie is eligible for the Rose rule so it might be less than 10m if he starts the all star game this year.
Posted by philabuck
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2008
10394 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:27 am to
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Andy getting 10 million this year is absurd.


They could cut him and clear up 7m right now. They won't do that though. He'll come back next year for a discount.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37009 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:31 am to
quote:

Kyrie is eligible for the Rose rule so it might be less than 10m if he starts the all star game this year.


He already signed his max extension. Which comes into effect next season. 5 years 90m, 7.5% raises per season, so his salary starts around 15m.
Posted by philabuck
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2008
10394 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:38 am to
His deal is worth 25% of the cap, those numbers are not hard numbers. More of an estimate.

quote:

Irving's deal includes the "Derrick Rose" provision, which allows Irving to gather 30 percent of the Cavaliers' salary-cap space instead of 25 percent should he reach one of these three designated plateaus:

• voted to the NBA's first, second or third team two times in his deal.
• voted to the All-Star team twice.
• voted the NBA's MVP once.


LINK
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 8:38 am
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37009 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:48 am to
Ah, I didn't realize your deal can change after you've already signed it.
Posted by philabuck
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2008
10394 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:09 am to


quote:

Tom Withers ?@twithersAP 8s
AP: Two people familiar with the situation say Cavaliers' position has remained unchanged and that no offer including Wiggins has been made


quote:

Tom Withers ?@twithersAP 6m
#Cavs coach David Blatt: "Rumors are rumors. That's why they call them rumors."
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62596 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:10 am to
Under the new CBA, the only way you lose bird rights is by being waived (including amnesty) or leaving via free agency. Bird rights transfer in trades. That' s just according to wiki. LINK
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:21 am to
Yup it's why the Pels have Asiks rights as an example
Posted by LSU Piston
The 313
Member since Feb 2008
3844 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:46 am to


Regarding Josh Smith and SAC

quote:

Vincent Goodwill: Here's what I do know: Kings GM wasn't too enthralled with the deal. If anything, seems like it's being pushed by coach Mike Malone
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:47 am to
quote:

Marc Stein?@ESPNSteinLine·1 min
RT @PrioritySports: We're happy to announce that @jpargo1 will return to #BuzzCity. (JANNERO PARGO SIGNS WITH CHARLOTTE)
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
41249 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:49 am to
making him the first person to be a hornet in two separate franchises
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:50 am to
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That trio might be better than Wade/LBJ/Bosh were in their final 3 games together, but the Heat trio was incredible for 3 years and 2 games into a 4th finals


People forget how great Wade was in 2010-11. Neither Kyrie nor Love are at that level right now.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
13141 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:06 am to
quote:

They were the scariest thing we've ever seen on the break.


LMAO. Come on now. They were the fanciest thing we've seen on a break. Jordan and Pippen were incredible in an era where it wasn't 2 freebies and ball back if you fouled the players running ahead.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62596 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:28 am to
So Charter doesn't carry NBATV. This is my first summer without it in years. Is there any way I can subscribe and watch online? Google's not helping. I'm willing to pay a subscription fee. I'm not willing to slog through malware-filled shite-quality pirating sites.

Any help would be highly appreciated.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41017 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:46 am to
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62596 posts
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:49 am to
I was gonna do that if there was no other option. But I want the whole channel, Hardwood Classics, etc
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