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Posted on 6/27/19 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by Geauxgurt
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Posted on 6/27/19 at 2:37 pm to
So no bench, 1 start that is Beta and injury-prone as hell, another star that is aging and injuries could be a problem, and some third star.

That is not a guaranteed conference-winning team in the East, much less in the gauntlet that is the west.

Golden State will not be as dominant as before, but will still be good come playoff time if Klay returns to form.

Denver and Portland may improve with experience. OKC will likely get better as George continues to become an MVP caliber player again.

This won't be a cake walk and Lakers making the playoffs much less the Finals because of LeBron and AD is nowehere near certain.
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 2:58 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150169 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 2:38 pm to
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This won't be a cake walk and Lakers making the playoffs much less the Finals because of LeBron and AD is nowehere near certain.
oh boy
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98296 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 2:42 pm to
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oh boy


You had the same reaction when I said the Lakers wouldn't make the playoffs last year
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91573 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 2:44 pm to
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The difficulty here is that the Lakers have to get this right. With LeBron being 35 for the majority of next season, they may not have the cushion year that his previous teams got to get it right.

Yeah but that has been the case since day 1.

They at least have a shot to compete now.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 2:47 pm to
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This won't be a cake walk and Lakers making the playoffs much less the Finals because of LeBron and AD is nowehere near certain.




I get the finals thing but people really think they might not make the playoffs? What?
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
12480 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 2:49 pm to
Lebron is a bitch. Can’t win unless he has top talent or All Stars around him.
Posted by MickeyLikesDags21
Member since Apr 2019
6641 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 2:51 pm to
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CobraCommander83


Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14895 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 2:51 pm to
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That is not a winning team in the East


Non-Lakers Fans are delusional.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
41221 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 2:51 pm to
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Can’t win unless he has top talent or All Stars around him.
Name a team that won a ring without top talent/all stars.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13501 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 2:52 pm to
Again, think about the Heat in 2010, their roster outside of the 3 "Max" players were:

Haslem
Chalmers
Anthony
Magloire
James Jones

They then added Miller for $5 million (you aren't getting a Miller-level player for $4.5 Million now).


Let's look at Cleveland when LeBron returned to Cleveland:

3 stars and then these guys remained:
Delavadova
Tristan Thompson
Verajo

On top of that, Cleveland gave up a good bit for Love, but not what the Lakers gave up for AD, had Kyrie on his Rookie deal, and then still had assets to trade for a few good role players.

On top of both of those scenarios, both teams player in the East which has been horrid for that entire time.

This is in a strong Western conference, with 3 full max players, one okay player in Kuzma and nothing else.

On top of that you expect guys to come in for peanuts to live in one of the top two most expensive and taxed states in the country. This isn't Ohio or Florida (no income tax) which bumped up their salaries even more.

Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39702 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 2:52 pm to
Dallas

Against Lebron and two top 10 guys

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98296 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 2:53 pm to
Mavs vs your savior
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13501 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 2:54 pm to
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I get the finals thing but people really think they might not make the playoffs? What?


If Lebron or AD gets injured, nothing is guaranteed. Nearly every team in the West is improving this season, and while the Warriors will downgrade for most of the season, they will still be a playoff team.

Again, if they get 3 max guys with mediocre bench, you think they make the playoffs with AD as their alpha if Lebron goes down.

The Pelicans will have had a better team around AD outside of Lebron in their past 3 seasons.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13501 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 2:55 pm to
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Non-Lakers Fans are delusional.


I meant winning as in winning the conference not winning record.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
41221 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 2:55 pm to
Dirk? Kidd was old but still a HOF player.
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
12480 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 2:59 pm to
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Name a team that won a ring without top talent/all stars.


None. I should have been more clearer on my statement. What I should have said is that Lebron can’t win unless he loads up on top FA talent.
Posted by dirtbag lsu
Not in Texas anymore ...dammit
Member since Feb 2005
2884 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 3:03 pm to
Dirk was it!

He had a bunch of "guys" with him...........and they beat 3 all stars! Never forget!

Yet................when GS had their 3 against Lebron and his no bodies.........the media cried it wasnt fair! Cus LeBaby!
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59927 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 3:04 pm to
Lebron can’t win a title without a super team. Two other all star teammates. Heck sometimes he still can’t win even with that much help. Sad.
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago
Member since Nov 2013
9108 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 3:08 pm to
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Lebron can’t win a title without a super team. Two other all star teammates. Heck sometimes he still can’t win even with that much help. Sad.


You're a proven joke, dude.
Posted by RPtoDoubleT
Dallas
Member since Oct 2007
513 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 3:11 pm to
Woo! Geaux Rockets. Top team ever if it wasnt for GOAT! If they would just give it to Harden every possession we would win every championship. Have you seen his offensive production? Its through the roof!!! Rockets got secret moves on the table - league fricked. Sleepwalk to GOAT loss, easily.
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