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re: NBA Finals G4: Spurs 107 @ Heat 86 - FINAL; Spurs lead series 3-1

Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:09 pm to
Posted by cascadia
Georgia
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:09 pm to
Wade is playing like crap right now. Not top five at all in this series.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:11 pm to
I know one stat Magic as a rookie started at center in the finals and played the whole game at center and scored forty-something and was finals MVP.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:11 pm to
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I don't think you logically make that one.



Thought first 10 years in league they are basically even. Lebron average 2 more ppg than Bird did and Bird avg 4 more boards ppg.


They are crazy even so I don't see why you think it's impossible to pick bird without being illogical.

James has the defensive edge which would prob. give him the edge over Bird in some peoples eyes but many people forget about that end of the floor.
I find Birds stats 88-92 amazing with the horrible back problems he was having.
Posted by Mack
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:12 pm to
Lebron is physically built to dominate in basketball by out-athleting and muscling other players. He's the perfect "in between size" to play any position at times.

To me, his fundamental basketball skills will never be up to par with his physical stature. It's a blessing and a curse for him. This was also Shaq's biggest problem.

...and he doesnt have that driving fire that the Goat and several other greats of the game had. He'd rather someone else do it when it counts.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 11:14 pm
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:12 pm to
Wasn't that his rookie year?


ETA: Yep

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The Lakers compiled a 60–22 record in the regular season and reached the 1980 NBA Finals,[37] in which they faced the Philadelphia 76ers, who were led by forward Julius Erving. The Lakers took a 3–2 lead in the series, but Abdul-Jabbar, who averaged 33 points a game in the series,[38] sprained his ankle in Game 5 and could not play in Game 6.[35] Paul Westhead decided to start Johnson at center in Game 6; Johnson recorded 42 points, 15 rebounds, 7 assists, and 3 steals in a 123–107 win, while playing guard, forward, and center at different times during the game.[35] Johnson became the only rookie to win the NBA Finals MVP award,[35] and his clutch performance is still regarded as one of the finest in NBA history.[6][39][40] He also became one of four players to win NCAA and NBA championships in consecutive years.[41]
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 11:14 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:14 pm to
That's actually a complete myth.

He "started at Center" but played very little actual Center in the game.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
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25056 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:14 pm to
Yeah and he was Finals MVP as rookie too.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:15 pm to
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...and he doesnt have that driving fire that the Goat and several other greats of the game had. He'd rather someone else do it when it counts.

It would be nice if guys around him stepped up as well. When you average 25+ per game and your team has yet to reach the century mark in this series, something is up.
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:15 pm to
Good shite, Mikey

Bird doesn't get the appreciation he deserves sometimes when talking about top 10 all time.

Posted by Carolina Tide
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2013
5747 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:15 pm to


RT @ISwearIAintHit: "I let him cheat on me.. For this?"

This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 11:16 pm
Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:17 pm to
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his fundamental basketball skills


Why do people hate on his fundamentals?

The guy is an elite passer, by far one of the best ball handlers for his size, and can score from everywhere on the floor.

Also he is criticized for making the correct basketball play all the time instead of taking the stupid contested shot. That is also a sign of good fundamentals.
Posted by Mack
Member since Nov 2013
827 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:18 pm to
When they tell you that youre playing with the greatest player in the league, in crunch time who are you going to want to throw the ball to and expect to deliver?

Lebron needs to stop acting like a fragile and delicate baby in the finals and live up to expectations.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112898 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:19 pm to
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I don't see why you think it's impossible to pick bird without being illogical. 
quote:

James has the defensive edge which would prob. give him the edge over Bird in some peoples eyes but many people forget about that end of the floor. 
There's the illogical part.
Posted by Mack
Member since Nov 2013
827 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:20 pm to
part of fundamentals is shooting. a high percentage jumpshot. scoring enough points that people call you legoat. he needs to be putting up goat numbers and he just cant do it. he's not that guy.
Where are the heroic performances? the 50 pt finals games? the "get on my back team" games?
i like his shoes though. sweet nikes.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 11:22 pm
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:20 pm to
Sigh.


When your stats are basically even it can never be illogical to pick a or b. Lebrons a great player....I'm not attacking him. Just breath. We will get you through the night
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112898 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

Lebron needs to stop acting like a fragile and delicate baby in the finals and live up to expectations. 
60% from the field, 61% from 3
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23488 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

Lebron needs to stop acting like a fragile and delicate baby in the finals and live up to expectations.


The guy is averaging 28 ppg in the finals and shooting 60% from the field and 3pt. There really isn't anything else to do. Those are basically walking on water stats.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112898 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:21 pm to
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When your stats are basically even it can never be illogical to pick a or b.
It is when one guy is infinitely better on defense.

Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
7310 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:22 pm to
I honestly don't like Lebron and root against him whenever possible, but looking at Lebron's shooting and post game it is retarded to act like he is coasting on his athleticism.
Posted by Mack
Member since Nov 2013
827 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:24 pm to
How many minutes did Jordan average in the finals?

What is lebrons average this series?

the man just doesnt have it in him when depended on.


nuff said
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