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re: NBA Fans... Difference between today's game and 10+ years ago
Posted on 2/27/16 at 4:02 pm to chalmetteowl
Posted on 2/27/16 at 4:02 pm to chalmetteowl
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ever hear the saying that teams "live by the 3, die by the 3?"
That saying went hand in hand with "jump shooting teams can't win championships."
And then Golden State happened.
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Posted on 2/27/16 at 4:03 pm to chalmetteowl
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meh men still got to be big to play... i guess you're thinking the big men have to be like Shaq or Patrick Ewing... but is Dirk not big? Tim Duncan? Anthony Davis? so why are they changing their style of play (and still being effective)? has the NBA changed rules to make them ineffective, or do they simply not exist anymore?
Yeah 10 years ago Dirk and Duncan were in their prime.
Nothing in the rules changed since Pau and Kobe dominated the NBA with low post scoring, teams adjusted to a lack of talent. It is no coincidence that the minute Phil Jackson retires that teams stated winning with no low post offense.
Today Davis, Cousins and Blake are your top 3 bigs. vs Dirk, Duncan and KG 10 years ago
This post was edited on 2/27/16 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 2/27/16 at 4:04 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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This post was edited on 2/27/16 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 2/27/16 at 4:06 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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TbirdSpur2010
Oh that's right. You were alive back then and saw all those terrible defenses.....
Posted on 2/27/16 at 4:08 pm to dukke v
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What??? You base this on what???
history
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OH that's right You rely on all those ESPN highlights
there is only one person relying on "highlights" and that's you, sir
a closer look at 1962
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Put Robertson's '61-62 season at the pace in '06-07 and his numbers drop to 25.6 points, 7.2 rebounds and 10.2 assists; still Hall of Fame-worthy numbers.
If the game was played at the pace of '60-61, Magic Johnson would have had three seasons in which he averaged triple-doubles (Proj. is projected to the '61-62 pace):
1960s pace adjusted stats
teams of that era played really fast with very little defense
Posted on 2/27/16 at 4:09 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:more cliches from an era that unbelievably devalued the three point shot
ever hear the saying that teams "live by the 3, die by the 3?"
Posted on 2/27/16 at 4:09 pm to chalmetteowl
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ever hear the saying that teams "live by the 3, die by the 3?"
yes it's called "modern basketball" or "how the warriors are fricking shite up right now"
Posted on 2/27/16 at 4:09 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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That saying went hand in hand with "jump shooting teams can't win championships."
And then Golden State happened.
The bad boy Pistons were a jump shooting team so were the first 3peat BullsPosted on 2/27/16 at 4:11 pm to dukke v
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Oh that's right. You were alive back then and saw all those terrible defenses.....
Luckily people kept these things called "stats"
Posted on 2/27/16 at 4:11 pm to dukke v
I think some people are forgetting that the pace was much slower back then and would take a fast paced team like the Warriors out of their element.
It would be interesting to say the least to see how good curry can be against the old players with the old rules from the 90s in place. I think he'd be good but when guys like Gary Payton would play against him he'd be in trouble. I think the sonics and jazz would still be better teams but the Warriors would be right there.
It would be interesting to say the least to see how good curry can be against the old players with the old rules from the 90s in place. I think he'd be good but when guys like Gary Payton would play against him he'd be in trouble. I think the sonics and jazz would still be better teams but the Warriors would be right there.
Posted on 2/27/16 at 4:11 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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The bad boy Pistons were a jump shooting team so were the first 3peat Bulls
Not nearly to the extent of GS.
Posted on 2/27/16 at 4:12 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:YES!!!!!!!!!!
It would be interesting to say the least to see how good curry can be against the old players with the old rules from the 90s in place. I think he'd be good but when guys like Gary Payton would play against him he'd be in trouble
Posted on 2/27/16 at 4:14 pm to whatiknowsofar
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I think some people are forgetting that the pace was much slower back then and would take a fast paced team like the Warriors out of their element.
10 years ago? yes
there is a reason teams have changed that
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but when guys like Gary Payton would play against him he'd be in trouble
modern offenses would never allow payton to be guarding steph that often if that became an issue. that's part of the whole team defense of the modern NBA that old school observers can't understand. they want the iso, man-dominant crap from the late 90s/00s
even with handchecks, those 90s defenses would have major issues adjusting to all of the movement, passing, etc.
hell 90s defenses didn't have zone concepts and would be restricted by illegal defense. how would those defenses be able to hang?
hand checks ain't enough
Posted on 2/27/16 at 4:21 pm to tduecen
The intergenerational bitching is fricking hilarious.
Posted on 2/27/16 at 4:24 pm to Wally Sparks
Old codgers with petrified brains vs. people who lack the attention span to remember two years ago.
Posted on 2/27/16 at 4:25 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Not nearly to the extent of GS.
I would say they were just as much a jump shooting team as the Warriors just not as much pick and roll.
The Bad Boy Pistons supplemented the lack of post scoring with all time elite rebounding while the Warriors(and virtually every team today) supplement it with pick and roll 3 point shooting.
The only guy on the Pistons with any kind of post game was Mark Augirre who was the 4th or 5th option on that team
When I say the Bad Boy Pistons I mean the 89 Pistons because in 90 they got James Edwards.
Posted on 2/27/16 at 4:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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10 years ago? yes
there is a reason teams have changed that
Yeah it is the lack of big men/low post scoring.
Posted on 2/27/16 at 4:30 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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And then Golden State happened
And it's not the only way they score.
Posted on 2/27/16 at 4:34 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Yeah it is the lack of big men/low post scoring.
that's a function of teams changing
Posted on 2/27/16 at 4:37 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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The only guy on the Pistons with any kind of post game was Mark Augirre who was the 4th or 5th option on that team
Bill Laimbeer?????
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