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re: Most over-rated

Posted on 9/10/08 at 10:04 pm to
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
15895 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 10:04 pm to
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They were #1 going into the bowls and beat the #4 team convincingly.


Please scroll through these BCS rankings for the 2003 season and tell me when USC was ranked #1 by the BCS.

2003 BCS Rankings

“I thought they were really good,” Arizona’s Clay Hart said about USC after the Trojans beat the Wildcats 45-0 Saturday. “But personally, I think LSU was the best team we’ve faced since I’ve been a Wildcat.”

LSU pounded Arizona 59-13 the second game of the season.

AZ Quote

By the way, nice post game celebration:

"After the game, Pasadena police Lt. Tom Peterson said 12 arrests were made – 10 for public intoxication, one for burglary and one for sexual battery."

Must Have Been Michigan Fans

Posted by kjacksonp
Mobile, AL
Member since Dec 2006
1087 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 10:07 pm to
As for places to eat, how do you feel about Paspigal (sp?) in the Market area?
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 10:09 pm to
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Tommy Bowden is definitely not overrated.


Yet Danny Ford overshadows him by a mile?

Bowden hasn't won shite and he's at a school where you can actually win shite.
Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
Member since Oct 2006
13238 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 10:09 pm to
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"After the game, Pasadena police Lt. Tom Peterson said 12 arrests were made – 10 for public intoxication, one for burglary and one for sexual battery."
I don't even want to go to the "crime blotter" card. It's weak smack, but honestly we're still hurting over USC point guard Ryan Francis being senselessly murdered in his hometown: Baton Rouge, LA
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28242 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 10:11 pm to
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Tommy Bowden is definitely not overrated.


quote:

Yet Danny Ford overshadows him by a mile?


You should have kept reading...

quote:

I've never heard anyone speak of Bowden as a good coach, so he therefore cannot be considered "overrated."
This post was edited on 9/10/08 at 10:13 pm
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 10:14 pm to
Ok..mine:

1. Charlie Weiss...you don't just lose at ND. Less success than Davie and Willingham = puke.

2. Bob Stoopes...has lost his last 4 BCS games and was embarrassed in two and made a fool in another (Boise). Singlehandedly responsible for Hawaii getting to play UGA last year after Boise "proved" they belonged.

3. Tommy Bowden...see my last post

4. Mack Brown...NO reason why Texas should not win it all every year. He cannot beat OU except once in a blue and always finds a way to play UT out of contention when they can smell BCS.

5. Jeff Tedford...The big deal? Cal had more skill talent than anyone but USC and they still faded out of the top 25. Why is he still at Cal if he's so hot?
This post was edited on 9/10/08 at 10:15 pm
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 10:16 pm to
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You should have kept reading...


I won't be an arse. I did not read. Sorry.


I look at him as overrated bc of who is father is and because Clemson seems content with 7 win seasons and a Peach Bowl residence.
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 10:21 pm to
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Please scroll through these BCS rankings for the 2003 season and tell me when USC was ranked #1 by the BCS.


This is what USC fans are simply incapable of grasping. Each and every team assented to the BCS system well before the 2003 season began. They agreed that the BCS and the BCS alone would determine who played in the championship game. The human polls were merely ONE COMPONENT of the BCS. The fact that USC finished the season atop ONE COMPONENT of the BCS is entirely inapposite and immaterial. By definition, a single consitutuent component of a multi-faceted system is not and cannot be dispositive. According to the specious "logic" adopted by certain USC fans, it would be equally appropriate to award championships for each of the other consitituent components of the BCS. We would have a national champion for each computer poll and, in 2003, a national championship for strength of schedule.

The whole purpose of the BCS was to crown a single national champion by systematically balancing input from a variety of disparate sources. That aim would be entirely frustrated if, as certain USC fans insist, a proliferation of national championships were awarded for each constituent of the BCS.
This post was edited on 9/10/08 at 10:23 pm
Posted by BamaMan45
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
1694 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 10:31 pm to
quote:

Charlie Weiss
Tommy Bowden
Ty Willingham
Dave Wanstedt
Kirk Ferentz


Probably the most legit list so far.
Posted by BCLA
Bossier City
Member since Mar 2005
8922 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 10:48 pm to
How can anyone not have Mark Richt. Not that hes a bad coach, but he always tops lists of SEC coaches.

What has he proven? All you hear about is his fantastic recruiting classes, and how his players give 110%, but why has he not taken UGA to the next level?

Only 2 SEC championships, and the year everyone thought they were the best SEC team, LSU beat them twice.

Once again the hype machine is fever pitch, and after they lose 2+ games this season, maybe "experts" will come off of his jock a bit, but they'll probably blame the "impossible" schedule.
This post was edited on 9/10/08 at 10:50 pm
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44046 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 11:16 pm to
quote:

How can anyone not have Mark Richt. What has he proven? .....

Only 2 SEC championships




Other than Spurrier, no coach in the SEC has more championships!

Been in Athens 7 years finished in the Top 6 4 times, Top 10 5 times. That is equal to Saban & Miles combined.
This post was edited on 9/10/08 at 11:19 pm
Posted by LSUSportsR4me
Aggieland
Member since Jan 2006
5505 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 11:36 pm to
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Charlie Weiss...The only reason he's not higher on the list is because he hasn't been at it long enough. Two more years of his pathetic record at ND and he's toast.


#1. The fatass is a terrible coach. He can only win with Tom Brady, and knowledge of defensive signals.
Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
Member since Oct 2006
13238 posts
Posted on 9/10/08 at 11:47 pm to
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This is what USC fans are simply incapable of grasping. Each and every team assented to the BCS system well before the 2003 season began. They agreed that the BCS and the BCS alone would determine who played in the championship game.
The system that allowed an Oklahoma team that was destroyed in it's conference championship game was obviously broken.

There's no doubt we were better than OU, and fortunately for LSU, you never had to play us.
Homefield advantage "SEC style" doesn't phase USC one bit.
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2006
8189 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 12:06 am to
It's proven that Rich Rod. does more with less. Look at WV's recruiting over the years. It's around 50, yet his teams finish top 10. He's legit.

Same with Tressel. So he's lost back-to-back title games, still can't deny how successful he's been.

1. Charlie Weis: He's an offensive genius, just not a coach. People at ND are starting to see that this guy can't coach.

2-5: Pending...
Posted by Amp4LSU
West Monroe
Member since Sep 2006
339 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 12:29 am to
lower alabama trojan...dude, really?

LSU doesn't claim that their OOC schedule is that big a deal, playing the middle to lower class of the PAC 1, so why do you guys make such huge claims about the mid to lower class of the SEC? and powerhouses like Virginia? woo hoo. West Monroe Rebels could beat Virginia.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44046 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 12:32 am to
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Homefield advantage "SEC style" doesn't phase USC one bit.


Guess it didn't phase Texas either.
Posted by rumproast
Member since Dec 2003
12383 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 12:34 am to
I think Frank Beamer is very overrated....so sick of hearing about Beamer ball......VT had a couple of good years....but always seem to under achieve.
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 6:42 am to
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Pete Caroll.


quote:

And yet, despite these advantages, since 2004, he has lost a game or two to far inferior teams each season.


I have long held the same opinion of Carroll as a coach for the same reasons. The only thing we know about Pete is that he can win when fielding a team with an overwhelming talent advantage. When he coached in the NFL and didn't have the same advantages he wasn't nearly as successful.

Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
12560 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 6:55 am to
Pete Carroll

Yeah add my name to the list. He's a good coach but not great.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37718 posts
Posted on 9/11/08 at 7:20 am to
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Please scroll through these BCS rankings for the 2003 season and tell me when USC was ranked #1 by the BCS.


They do not have the BCS NC; they have the AP. Please scroll through the AP and coaches poll and see who was #1 going into the bowls.
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