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re: More OSU violations to come? Looking possible...
Posted on 5/9/11 at 4:11 pm to finallyfastohio
Posted on 5/9/11 at 4:11 pm to finallyfastohio
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im telling you lsu fans. enjoy it now
I don't think most LSU fans are enjoying it.
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Posted on 5/9/11 at 4:14 pm to Tigertown in ATL
im just glad the ncaa didnt come calling about rohans escalade 
Posted on 5/9/11 at 4:24 pm to jcole4lsu
all it takes is one incident. this being the tatoo dealer getting raided...
then reporters smell blood and will hunt for anything. even local ones trying to get their name out there. and if they do that at a bigtime university, they will find stuff.
the car story will go away i think, but more stuff will probably come out and there probably isn't a fan who thinks well of our program outside of columbus anymore. only time will heal this and if getting a new coaching staff will speed up the process then so be it. I just feel for coach who is prolly taking a grenade for this university.
then reporters smell blood and will hunt for anything. even local ones trying to get their name out there. and if they do that at a bigtime university, they will find stuff.
the car story will go away i think, but more stuff will probably come out and there probably isn't a fan who thinks well of our program outside of columbus anymore. only time will heal this and if getting a new coaching staff will speed up the process then so be it. I just feel for coach who is prolly taking a grenade for this university.
This post was edited on 5/9/11 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 5/9/11 at 4:30 pm to tigerbaittrick
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IMO this is what could get ugly. If he got the loan for the car, but the purchase price shows $0, then where did that money go?
Where it should have gone. To the dealer. If the title shows $0 it doesn't mean it was sold for that. Only that the seller did it to avoid taxes. Gibson may well have still been hit with taxes on the purchase agreement. It would be shady dealings on the dealers part but would have nothing to do with Gibson as he would never see the title until the loan is paid off.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 4:34 pm to tigerbaittrick
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I haven't read this thread through, but what are tOSU fans thinking is going to come of these new allegations piled onto the other ones?
I know ya'll think Tressel needs to go but what do ya'll expect to happen?
Is it an SMU type of situation?
The reaction here at first was something like "Tressel's still the man."
Then it became, "How great of him to increase his suspension to match his players."
Most people honestly don't seem to be talking about it. If I had to guess, I'd expect the majority just think it will blow over. The fans who pay more attention see some problems coming up in the future.
And it won't be an SMU type situation. The allegations aren't as serious yet and I don't think OSU is currently on probation.
This post was edited on 5/9/11 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 5/9/11 at 4:35 pm to VABuckeye
Didn't the compliance director say he knew about it and he didn't think it was a violation? That's fine if it's right, but if not, it's going to be ugly.
This post was edited on 5/9/11 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 5/9/11 at 6:25 pm to KosmoCramer
What are yall thinking about the AD and President too? They've been up Tressell's butt a good bit. Is there growing dissent towards them too?
Posted on 5/9/11 at 6:29 pm to ohiovol
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The allegations aren't as serious yet and I don't think OSU is currently on probation.
They are within the 5 year window of major infractions committed by the basketball team so for this reason the NCAA can/will hit them harder.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 6:34 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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They are within the 5 year window of major infractions committed by the basketball team so for this reason the NCAA can/will hit them harder.
O'Brien was fired seven years ago (and the violations occurred a few years before that). If there was something else I missed, I apologize, but I'm pretty sure since I didn't.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 6:49 pm to VABuckeye
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Where it should have gone. To the dealer. If the title shows $0 it doesn't mean it was sold for that. Only that the seller did it to avoid taxes.
This.
I did this on the first car I bought - $0 was on the title. Wasn't from a dealer though. I think this is more of a tax evasion issue than a NCAA issue (in this particular case). Now having 50 people and their families getting cars from the same guy and TP "test driving" cars for hundreds of miles is another layer of things.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 6:53 pm to Alahunter
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What are yall thinking about the AD and President too? They've been up Tressell's butt a good bit. Is there growing dissent towards them too?
None.
Gordon Gee (Pres) is untouchable pretty much and Gene Smith is on solid ground.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 6:55 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
Interesting except from a 2009 article talking about OSU having the most reported infractions since 2000.
LINK
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Doug Archie, Ohio State's associate athletic director for compliance and camps, gave a report this month to a committee of the OSU Board of Trustees about the university's NCAA violations.
"We have high ethics here, and we want the coaches to think of self-reporting as good and healthy," Archie told The Dispatch last week. "We do a good job of educating the coaches and making sure they're aware if violations occur and to then report them. A repetition of the same violations is a negative as opposed to the same overall number. Are we doing the same thing over and over again?"
LINK
Posted on 5/9/11 at 6:59 pm to Alahunter
Again, OSU has nearly double the amount of varsity sports of nearly every university in the country, so its no surprise that they have the most violations.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 7:01 pm to Alahunter
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Interesting except from a 2009 article talking about OSU having the most reported infractions since 2000.
"Major" was the key word in my post.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 7:02 pm to SprintFun
I was more interested in how they were claiming they and the coaches were so knowledgeable about violations or potential violations, and the response by the Coach, AD and President when this last story broke.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 7:04 pm to Alahunter
Yea, I know I personally expected them to just be like "Haha we knew all about it, we fricked"
Posted on 5/9/11 at 7:05 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
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They are within the 5 year window of major infractions committed by the basketball team so for this reason the NCAA can/will hit them harder.
O'Brien was fired seven years ago (and the violations occurred a few years before that). If there was something else I missed, I apologize, but I'm pretty sure since I didn't.
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Institution: The Ohio State UniversityDate: March 10, 2006
Violation Sumary: Violations of NCAA legislation in the men's basketball program involving recruiting, extra benefits, academic fraud, unethical conduct and failure to monitor.
Penalty Summary: Additional penalties imposed by the committee were as follows: public reprimand and censure; three years of probation; expense paid visits in men's basketball reduced one from the average over the last four years; reimbursement to the Association an amount equal to 90 percent of revenue resulting from the Big Ten Conference distribution for the 1999, 2000, 2001 and 2002 championships; vacation of team and individual records (to include the former head coach) for the 1999, 2000, 2001 and 2002 tournaments; show cause imposed on the former head coach for a period of two years; recruiting ban and show cause imposed on the former assistant coach until October 1, 2007; annual compliance reporting required
Within the 5 yr window.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 7:17 pm to Alahunter
Given that the violations occurred in the late 90s, and OSU implemented its own penalty, the NCAA will likely not look at it as a repeat violation.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 7:18 pm to Alahunter
5 years after March 10, 2006.
Either its 5 years from violation to violation or 5 years from NCAA determined sanction to sanction. You can't have it 5 years from Sanction to violation.
The O'Brien stuff happened way before 2006, they just took forever to rule on it.
But I'm sure the NCAA can make up whatever rules they want.
Either its 5 years from violation to violation or 5 years from NCAA determined sanction to sanction. You can't have it 5 years from Sanction to violation.
The O'Brien stuff happened way before 2006, they just took forever to rule on it.
But I'm sure the NCAA can make up whatever rules they want.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 7:20 pm to SprintFun
If it happens within 5 yrs of the assessed penalties and probation. Bama was nailed because of a self reported secondary violation in basketball. That is what they used to label Bama a repeat violator in the last case.
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