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re: MLS owners predict league will surpass MLB

Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:56 am to
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:56 am to
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The quality has improved but people like you overstate how good the league actually is.



League 1 is cooler too.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:57 am to
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No, he's not. Increasing the amount of college scholarships could only help. If nothing else, it would keep more players in the game longer. Give the poorer demographics a goal that they are familiar with when most are unfamiliar with the idea of professional academies. They stay in the game longer, increasing the odds of getting spotted if they have any talent.

The ultimate goal wouldn't be to actually get them to college, although it would be a nice byproduct. It would be a way to increase familiarity, popularity, exposure, and a way to keep people in the game longer.


College soccer isn’t the same thing as what guys the same age do around the world

You are trying to play both side of the fence saying increase scholarships to a flawed system but then don’t send them there. It doesn’t work that way.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126568 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 12:01 pm to
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League 1 is cooler too.


At least they play on real grass

Which is another issue with MLS, soccer at that level isn’t meant to be played on turf.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/27/20 at 12:01 pm to
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College soccer isn’t the same thing as what guys the same age do around the world

I don't think anyone is arguing that.
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You are trying to play both side of the fence saying increase scholarships to a flawed system but then don’t send them there. It doesn’t work that way.

It absolutely can work that way.
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/27/20 at 12:02 pm to
England man good

The MLS bad

Don’t take this stuff so seriously bruv.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126568 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 12:03 pm to
If quality players are not taking those scholarships then they will eventually go away and we are back to square one

We don’t want quality players in the college game

So no it won’t work
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/27/20 at 12:03 pm to
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The quality has improved but people like you overstate how good the league actually is.

I think it's in the 13-18 range. I don't think that's overstating it.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126568 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 12:05 pm to
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England man good

The MLS bad

Don’t take this stuff so seriously bruv.


I enjoy MLS

I just don’t have these delusions about the league like some of y’all do.

At the end of the day if we can get it to the standard or Brazil or Argentina where we develop really good players domestically and then get them in bigger leagues that will be a win.

But the talk of over taking the euro leagues and being bigger than MLB is laughable
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 12:08 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/27/20 at 12:09 pm to
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How's the MSB feel about this? Can soccer overtake baseball in the near future?


In 2019, in our little rec sports program, soccer moved past basketball for the second most number of players, still a good ways behind baseball/softball.

Soccer has been popular enough at the younger levels, that by now, we should be seeing an increase in the talent level in the high school and college / U-22 programs, are we seeing that though?

These kids, when forced to pick one sport, are still choosing a sport other than soccer. Until that changes, soccer will continue to be second-tier in the US.
Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/27/20 at 12:09 pm to
its a good live experience to go with frien fmaily kids, pets. nice with a beer.

but Dl mens college soccer is the answeer
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126568 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 12:13 pm to
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but Dl mens college soccer is the answeer


It’s not even the same game

It is 100% not the answer

The difference in players at the age of 19 from college to a professional academy is insane.

Jack Harrison is the player who most recently showed how bad college soccer is.

College soccer tactics are more based on fitness than anything else bc you can sub guys off and back on so they just run themselves into the ground until they need a break.
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 12:15 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69175 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 12:14 pm to
Pay to play works for every other American sport because of college. The lack of college is the only reason why pay for play doesn’t work.

Kids training for college scholarship offers will get noticed by big academies and end up advancing to where they need to be even without actually going to college.
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 12:17 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126568 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 12:16 pm to
Pay to play isn’t the answer for soccer

You really have no idea what you are talking about

The appeal of college soccer isn’t the answer

College soccer is counter productive to the development of players. How can you not understand this.
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 12:18 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 12:17 pm to
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If quality players are not taking those scholarships then they will eventually go away and we are back to square one

That doesn't stop schools from giving scholarships to bad players in other sports. Worst case scenario, you end up with more players that are the caliber of current college players.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126568 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 12:19 pm to
Yea that’s not the answer bc college soccer is flooded with non Americans
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 12:19 pm to
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its a good live experience to go with frien fmaily kids, pets. nice with a beer.


Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
4242 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 12:21 pm to
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But the talk of over taking the euro leagues and being bigger than MLB is laughable


I agree they won’t overtake Europe or MLB

But that’s not the same as saying the league is a pyramid scheme that is bad for US player development. That’s also laughable

I think MLS teams make money. Maybe the bad ones only do because of league payouts, but that’s not a whole lot different than the hundreds of clubs in Europe that operate in the red with absolutely no financial sense whatsoever.

Hundreds of European clubs pay totally unsustainable wage bills on the hope that maybe they get promoted/make a continental tournament. Big clubs do it, little clubs do it, and it’s stupid as shite.

Regardless, MLS is a fine league, especially considering it’s only existed for 24 years and basically had to pull themselves out of the grave from 2005 onward or so. Lots of room to improve but it’s entertaining and sustainable. Biggest thing to do now is get rid of bad owners like Kraft and increase investment, but easier said than done.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 12:21 pm to
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At least they play on real grass

Nycfc does !
Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
9810 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 12:22 pm to
yeah high school soccer here is different and screwd
st pauls and catholic would get destoyed by seville youth
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 12:25 pm to
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The WNBA is considered a joke by most people and their ratings are 40% higher than average ratings for MLS matches. These owners are delusional.

That has more to do with the NBA propping up the WNBA and giving it prime time weekday spots than it is real fan viewership. When's the last time you've ever seen a regular season MLS game on a primetime spot? Maybe one of Zlatan's first few games with the Galaxy.
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 12:25 pm
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