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re: MLB Trade Rumors: 07/31/17 Darvish/Cingrani to Dodgers, Kintzler to the Nats
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:17 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:17 pm to WestCoastAg
The Dodgers are not the favorite to win the World Series as Vick mentioned earlier, because of their pitching & the question surrounding pretty much the whole staffs health the last 2 years. They are jumbled up with a group of 3-4 other teams. Certainly they aren't on an island alone.
You have young MLB talent already to build around long term. Don't fall in love with prospects. The dodgers need a trade to distance themselves because they know the Astros and Nats and even the Cubs are right there
You have young MLB talent already to build around long term. Don't fall in love with prospects. The dodgers need a trade to distance themselves because they know the Astros and Nats and even the Cubs are right there
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Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:17 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
quote:they also needed a player exactly like chapman. the dodgers dont need a gray or a darvish. it would be a luxury
The Cubs were excellent all around last year. It is worth trying to lap the field sometimes.
quote:at the cost of a MLB ready major prospect, and who will most likely leave us in free agency this upcoming winter? im not crazy about it
If the Dodgers chance without Yu is 20% to win the WS and 30% with Yu, then would you go for it? I would.
quote:players like barnes or kike are probably going to get moved eventually. could even happen this weekend
Guys like Barnes are blocked and he's not the only one.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:20 pm to Lester Earl
quote:the dodgers have a 21% of winning the world series right now on fangraphs, and over 25% on BP. no other team is higher than 16 on fangraphs or 18.5 on BP. projection wise we kind of are
They are jumbled up with a group of 3-4 other teams. Certainly they aren't on an island alone.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:25 pm to WestCoastAg
So you're telling me they have an 80% chance they don't win one.
How much different do you think 21% is from 16 or 18?
How much different do you think 21% is from 16 or 18?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:25 pm to WestCoastAg
The longer you wait to move a player like Barnes or Kike the more they lose value, by quite a bit. They should absolutely move them this year if they can get someone who helps the club in October
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:26 pm to Lester Earl
What were the Cubs last season at this point
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:28 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
the dodgers have a 21% of winning the world series right now on fangraphs, and over 25% on BP. no other team is higher than 16 on fangraphs or 18.5 on BP. projection wise we kind of are
Frankly I dont care that much at this point about the dodgers but Id be very wary of trusting a rotation with a kershaw who is currently on the DL and rich hill who is just waiting for a strong gust of wind and a misplaced baseball stitching from being on the DL.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:29 pm to Lester Earl
quote:that is my literal point. even with darvish, the odds are overwhelmingly against the dodgers winning
So you're telling me they have an 80% chance they don't win one.
quote:why did you use 21 and not 25?
How much different do you think 21% is from 16 or 18?
and yes, 21 percent odds are decently higher than 16. especially when you have two other teams in the area of the 16 on fangraphs. there are three teams with odds between 13.4 and 16.3. thats your jumble
BPs is a little more spread out, but the difference between the dodgers and the astros is the same as the cubs total amount of odds
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:29 pm to BayouBengals03
Nm
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:30 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
i think barnes gets moved this weekend
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:30 pm to BayouBengals03
Fangraphs had the Cubs between 18-19% to win the WS at this time last year.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:30 pm to Adam Banks
and if pitching health is your biggest fear, i dont think turning to darvish or gray is the best thing
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:32 pm to BayouBengals03
No clue, I don't look at stuff like that. I know the cubs staff were absolute horses last year. I think every Dodger starter has been on the DL. You're best pitcher has a reoccurring back problem. Hill can't pitch out the 5th inning. They need another guy there. They are playing with house money as they have really good young MLB talent and a stocked farm system. You can't use all these guys!
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:32 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
and if pitching health is your biggest fear, i dont think turning to darvish or gray is the best thing
Granted. As an Astros fan I dont like having to worry about both McCullers and Keuchel being healthy. I want a solid starter so if 2/3 are healthy then you feel good about getting there. 3/3 you are the favorite.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:36 pm to Adam Banks
and i just want to further reiterate that i am not against trading away prospects. not close
i have no problem with trading away alvarez, calhoun, or both for gray. i just dont like the idea of trading away elite prospects who are about to be on the major league roster.
and i just hate the idea of trading away any elite prospect for a one year rental when the odds are stacked against you from winning in any one year
i have no problem with trading away alvarez, calhoun, or both for gray. i just dont like the idea of trading away elite prospects who are about to be on the major league roster.
and i just hate the idea of trading away any elite prospect for a one year rental when the odds are stacked against you from winning in any one year
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:38 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
and i just hate the idea of trading away any elite prospect for a one year rental when the odds are stacked against you from winning in any one year
Im completely with you here.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:41 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
that is my literal point. even with darvish, the odds are overwhelmingly against the dodgers winning
It is worth for the bump in your odds. The field is always more likely than one team to win in baseball. We all know the playoffs are a crap shoot.
Right now, I think it is fair to say the Dodgers, Nationals, and Astros all have a solid chance as well as the Cubs, Indians, and Red Sox. The Dodgers have the farm, money, resources, excess players, etc. to push themselves into a different tier.
Maybe Yu (or whoever they acquire) does not pan out and walks. Maybe the prospect you dealt becomes a valuable piece. That sucks, but you can't sit on your dick and not open the playoff window as much as you can within reason.
I would hope Friedman & co. have the guts cause buying one more arm will not even make a dent in their future.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:43 pm to WestCoastAg
Which guys are you calling elite?
You scared to give Verdugo?
You scared to give Verdugo?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:45 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
quote:and i hope that they have the foresight to not get caught up in "banners are forever!!!" and dont go all in on a one year rental
I would hope Friedman & co. have the guts cause buying one more arm will not even make a dent in their future.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 7:46 pm to Lester Earl
buehler
verdugo is a top 30 guy. not elite but differently in that next tier
verdugo is a top 30 guy. not elite but differently in that next tier
quote:i dont want to give up a prospect the stature of verdugo when he is about to be on the major league team
You scared to give Verdugo?
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