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re: MLB Trade Deadline Thread
Posted on 7/29/12 at 6:03 pm to tduecen
Posted on 7/29/12 at 6:03 pm to tduecen
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I kinda wish Yanks would grab Headly...
Apparently the price is very high. Jeff Luhnow mentioned in his press conference today that there weren't very many solid third baseman on the market and the ones who were would take a "kings ransom."
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Posted on 7/29/12 at 6:11 pm to tduecen
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I kinda wish Yanks would grab Headly... Although when ARod returns he would have no position even though he has club friendly contract
Joe could throw him into the clusterfrick that is the 3B/DH/rest rotation.
ETA: Long-term it'd make some sense. This season though, Idk. Ibanez and Chavez are doing well enough. Going forward I could see headley at 3rd and bitch tits at DH. I don't like it because he can still play a solid 3rd but if Joe is gonna keep doing the "rest" thing then I'm all for it. As finicky as he is, maybe the stability of being everyday DH would do him some good.
This post was edited on 7/29/12 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 7/29/12 at 6:43 pm to Srbtiger06
Chavez/Ibanez I keep waiting for that DL stint. Playing sparingly was one thing but every day is a grind and can they hold up.
Having Jones/Nix/Ichiro can keep them from playing everyday but still playing more than they are use to, also fatigue down home stretch may present an issue. Tex is hot right now, Jeter has faded after hot start, Cano/Granderson/Swisher are doing exactly how we thought.
Having Jones/Nix/Ichiro can keep them from playing everyday but still playing more than they are use to, also fatigue down home stretch may present an issue. Tex is hot right now, Jeter has faded after hot start, Cano/Granderson/Swisher are doing exactly how we thought.
Posted on 7/29/12 at 6:44 pm to tduecen
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@JonHeymanCBS: hear #pirates have put a high price tag on kevin correia (8-6, 4.24), one of the better pitchers ever bounced to the pen
If you get a C prospect from someone, get rid of him. Dude is a bum.
Posted on 7/29/12 at 6:48 pm to bddwolfpack
High price tag and Kevin correia don't belong in the same sentence
Posted on 7/29/12 at 6:49 pm to tduecen
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Chavez/Ibanez I keep waiting for that DL stint. Playing sparingly was one thing but every day is a grind and can they hold up. Having Jones/Nix/Ichiro can keep them from playing everyday but still playing more than they are use to, also fatigue down home stretch may present an issue.
Exactly. Lotta guys playing decent enough to warrant PT. Can we really afford Headley? If he's still a Padre at the end of the season I fully expect Cash to pursue him...not sure he fits or warrants a mid season move now though.
Posted on 7/29/12 at 6:53 pm to GynoSandberg
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High price tag and Kevin correia don't belong in the same sentence
or paragraph
Posted on 7/29/12 at 6:54 pm to Srbtiger06
Can we? Ye they are the Yankees and could make it work by giving Headley 3B job and letting Chavez go back to that utility role. When ARod gets back it will complicate things but then Headley will slide into a 3B/1B/DH role I assume. Isn't Headley signed through next year?
Posted on 7/29/12 at 7:46 pm to tduecen
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Isn't Headley signed through next year?
Yes/No. I THINK he'll be FA eligible in 2015 so that would give NY 3 full seasons.
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Ye they are the Yankees and could make it work by giving Headley 3B job and letting Chavez go back to that utility role.
Then you're looking at this:
3B: Headley
DH: Tits
UTL: Chavez
OF: Grandy
OF: Ichiro
OF: Swish
OF: Jones
OF: Ibanez
If you play it by this year then here is the DH situation:
A Jones: 102OPS+ 12HR 27RBI
Tits: 113OPS+ 15HR 44RBI
Ibanez: 97OPS+ 13HR 44RBI
Chavez: 104OPS+ 8HR 20RBI
Headley isn't a power hitter so who do you drop?
Posted on 7/29/12 at 7:53 pm to Srbtiger06
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Headley isn't a power hitter so who do you drop?
He has above average power but it gets masked by playing in those expansive NL West stadiums
Posted on 7/29/12 at 8:10 pm to Srbtiger06
Look at his home/road splits, he has above average power an in Yanks line up if h could hit for what he does on road now and play quality defense it is upgrade.
He shows .272 avg, .484 slugg, and .372 OBP
Ichiro offers nothing but better defense over Jones/Ibanez
Rotating them with Swisher wouldn't hurt either as only Grandy as a must start. So I think it would work well, AROd is out 6 weeks and then will need time ad well, no telling who may get injured between now and then.
He shows .272 avg, .484 slugg, and .372 OBP
Ichiro offers nothing but better defense over Jones/Ibanez
Rotating them with Swisher wouldn't hurt either as only Grandy as a must start. So I think it would work well, AROd is out 6 weeks and then will need time ad well, no telling who may get injured between now and then.
Posted on 7/29/12 at 8:10 pm to BigBoyTiger
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He has above average power but it gets masked by playing in those expansive NL West stadiums
True, but we aren't talking about a 5+ HR differential. Is he good enough to replace Tits or Chavez in the lineup? Chavez pops one every 23 PA. Headley hits one every 36. It may not appear to be a massive difference, but the Yanks rely HEAVILY on homers. If Headley was a bag swiper then it would even out, but he isn't.
Posted on 7/29/12 at 8:13 pm to tduecen
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Ichiro offers nothing but better defense over Jones/Ibanez
Well in all fairness, that's a fricking huge upgrade. Does his D outweigh Ibanez/Jones bat though? That's the question in a lineup that relies on the homer.
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Rotating them with Swisher wouldn't hurt either as only Grandy as a must start. So I think it would work well, AROd is out 6 weeks and then will need time ad well, no telling who may get injured between now and then.
Then you're almost leaning on injuries and there is no guarantee that'll happen. I just don't like inserting Headley into a lineup that thrives on power.
Even IF you platoon Headley/Tits, you're changing the lineup come playoff time. That's dangerous.
Posted on 7/30/12 at 8:54 am to Srbtiger06
Tits is basically Headley at this point, he is not the ARod of 3 seasons ago. He is a .270 hitter with 20 home run potential who plays below avg defense. Headly offers above avg defense at the position and in a different park would be that 29 home run guy.
Not really "counting" on injuries just looking at past to predict future. Especially Chavez here, Jones will be fine, Ibanez I don't know about, and well Swisher Has been about league avg over past 2 season but he does get on base at about a .375 clip.
Not really "counting" on injuries just looking at past to predict future. Especially Chavez here, Jones will be fine, Ibanez I don't know about, and well Swisher Has been about league avg over past 2 season but he does get on base at about a .375 clip.
Posted on 7/30/12 at 8:55 am to Srbtiger06
Will the Giants just get Brandon League already. This bullpen is pissing me the frick off.
Posted on 7/30/12 at 10:35 am to tduecen
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Especially Chavez here, Jones will be fine, Ibanez I don't know about, and well Swisher Has been about league avg over past 2 season but he does get on base at about a .375 clip.
I'm surprised Chavez has stayed healthy. They're all FA after this year so it won't be a big problem though.
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Tits is basically Headley at this point, he is not the ARod of 3 seasons ago. He is a .270 hitter with 20 home run potential who plays below avg defense.
IDK if I would say he's below average with the glove. He's looked better this year compared to last season. I think the hip is finally good. I totally believe he could be a .290-.300AVG 30HR player if Joe let him get in a groove.
Headley is good, no doubt. I would just rather replace A-Rod with some pop. No doubt his numbers would improve but you're talking about more than doubling his best HR seasons.
Posted on 7/30/12 at 11:27 am to Srbtiger06
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Buster Olney ?@Buster_ESPN
Source:Cliff Lee is in play in trade talks today. Rangers obviously the most logical landing spot, with 3B Mike Olt as possible centerpiece.
Posted on 7/30/12 at 11:43 am to SwampDonks
Braves can give Teharan(sp?) and Bethancourt ... 
Posted on 7/30/12 at 11:44 am to SwampDonks
"Hunter Andrew Pence is a Major League Baseball outfielder with the Montreal Expos."
Posted on 7/30/12 at 11:45 am to HoLeInOnEr05
Nope, no no no
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