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Posted on 7/25/16 at 11:31 am to The Sad Banana
What a strong trade for the Cubs THIS YEAR. Chapman slides both Strop and Grim from the 7th/8th to the 6th/7th. This shortens the game. Nice move going into the playoffs.
Cubs playoff chances sit at 98%. This is a World Series move, not a playoff move.
Cubs playoff chances sit at 98%. This is a World Series move, not a playoff move.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 11:32 am to The Sad Banana
If this is the price for Chapman, I can't even imagine what Miller could fetch.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 11:32 am to The Seaward
quote:MIller would have fetched Schwarber. Good job, Theo.
If this is the price for Chapman, I can't even imagine what Miller could fetch.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 11:33 am to The Sad Banana
Or at least Soler. I wonder if the Cubs will deal Soler.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 11:35 am to Lester Earl
Do we get a 1st rder if Chapman doesn't resign with us?
Posted on 7/25/16 at 11:36 am to Toula
No, not since he was traded midseason.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 11:37 am
Posted on 7/25/16 at 11:36 am to The Sad Banana
miller is better than chapman, and under contract. just depends on what a team wants.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 11:36 am to The Sad Banana
Grimm has a lot to prove before he's the regular any inning guy again. Edwards has jumped him easily
Posted on 7/25/16 at 11:38 am to UNO
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miller is better than chapman, and under contract. just depends on what a team wants
Plus Miller is more flexibile about his role. Not sure how Chapman will react if Rendon still closes. And Miller hasn't beat his wife, which may not matter on the field, but certainly makes him easier to root for.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 11:41 am to The Seaward
If Chapman gets extended like an elite closer, I don't think he'll care if he's a setup guy. That being said, you can never know. I still remember Soriano being unable to contribute a thing unless he led off.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 11:44 am
Posted on 7/25/16 at 11:42 am to The Seaward
Hopefully I get to see Chapman pitch at Coors next month. Saw him there last year when he was with Cincy
Posted on 7/25/16 at 11:43 am to UNO
they shouldve just given schwarber for miller if thats who NYY wanted. probably couldve gotten additional pieces from them, too.
schwarber is more valuable to them then his is here. he is still a guy without a position for the cubs. he can DH in new york and they have the short RF porch.
as a young SS with pop, torres will arguably carry more long term value than schwarber imo
schwarber is more valuable to them then his is here. he is still a guy without a position for the cubs. he can DH in new york and they have the short RF porch.
as a young SS with pop, torres will arguably carry more long term value than schwarber imo
Posted on 7/25/16 at 11:46 am to GynoSandberg
I read a great Grantland piece about Schwarber where they were trying to figure out why every team in the world wants Schwarber when all they will say publicly is how terrible he is. The numbers actually showed he was league average in Left. If he is what the Cubs think he is offensively, he's playing Left for a decade. Get over it, rest of the league.
To address your question more directly, though, a 23 year old who bats left-handed with .285 and 40 homerun potential is not getting moved for a bullpen arm, not even if that arm is the love child of Eck, Roided Gagne, and Mariano Rivera.
To address your question more directly, though, a 23 year old who bats left-handed with .285 and 40 homerun potential is not getting moved for a bullpen arm, not even if that arm is the love child of Eck, Roided Gagne, and Mariano Rivera.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 11:59 am
Posted on 7/25/16 at 11:48 am to GynoSandberg
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Bob Nightengale ?@BNightengale 35s36 seconds ago
The #Cubs do not have contract extension with Aroldis Chapman once #Yankees deal becomes official. Yankees tried themselves, and rebuffed.
yeesh.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 11:50 am to Toula
Curt Schilling says knowing Theo, he'll extend him
Posted on 7/25/16 at 11:58 am to GynoSandberg
quote:That's where you're wrong. And the Cubs just proved it.
schwarber is more valuable to them then his is here.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 11:59 am
Posted on 7/25/16 at 12:00 pm to The Sad Banana
Schwarber had a terrible NLCS and everyone assumes he can't play. The guy is 23. I saw KB make a similar mistake in right field last week (he's 24). Young guys are going to learn how to play outfield. You can't teach someone to mash from the left side like Schwarber does. Also, if he can master the finer points of being a catcher, you have a superduper star talent on your hands.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 7/25/16 at 12:04 pm to therick711
I think the fact that Contreras is doing so well right now spells Schwarber being a primary LF and a third catcher. The Cubs still have Montero signed thru next season and he'll either be an expensive backup or they'll split time (Montero and Contreras).
Schwarber is no dummy...he has the rep of being a hard worker and knowing his defensive limitations. I know that doesn't equate to "good fielder", but at least it's a great place to start. He's going to be the third cornerstone of the offense behind Rizzo and Bryant. That's what the Cubs front office has to believe.
Schwarber is no dummy...he has the rep of being a hard worker and knowing his defensive limitations. I know that doesn't equate to "good fielder", but at least it's a great place to start. He's going to be the third cornerstone of the offense behind Rizzo and Bryant. That's what the Cubs front office has to believe.
Posted on 7/25/16 at 12:13 pm to therick711
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That's where you're wrong. And the Cubs just proved it.
Not necessarily. Doesn't mean he still isnt dealt in the future. Just means they know his value will fetch more than a relief pitcher, which is what I would expect from Theo.
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Also, if he can master the finer points of being a catcher, you have a superduper star talent on your hands.
One, he will never move Contreras from behind the plate. Two, they are worried his knee won't allow it.
Also, if he was an average outfield he probably wouldnt be hurt right now
And I love Schwarber, but this Fangraphs article does highlight a few things to consider
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Last year, Schwarber made contact on just 67% of his swings, and perhaps more importantly, only 75% of his swings on pitches in the strike zone.
Dating back to 2008, there have been 620 player-seasons in which an age-25-or-younger hitter has come to the plate at least 250 times. Of those 620 player-seasons, Schwarber’s 2015 in-zone contact rate ranked 614th
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As a lefty who pulled 47% of his balls in play as a rookie, Schwarber was an obvious shift candidate, and as such, he saw three defenders on the right side of the bag in 62% of his plate appearances last year.
Go look at the normal range of BABIPs for high-pull lefties over the last three years. Even the guys who hit the ball the hardest — guys like Chris Davis, David Ortiz, and Anthony Rizzo — now run BABIPs in the .280 to .290 range. These are the guys the shift is designed to do the most damage to, and Schwarber is going to be part of the group that is most hurt by modern defensive positioning. Not surprisingly, even though he hit the ball very hard last year, Schwarber ran just a .293 BABIP, and we probably shouldn’t expect much of an increase from that.
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Postseason included, Schwarber hit 21 home runs last year, but only six doubles and one triple, so 75% of his extra base hits were home runs. That’s why Schwarber had a .273 ISO, just a tick shy of Giancarlo Stanton‘s career .274 mark. Except no one, not even Stanton, has ever shown that they can turn that rate of well-struck balls into home runs.
Over the last 10 years, in fact, no player has even managed to put up a HR/XBH rate of even 60%. Among qualified hitters, the highest percentage of extra base hits to go for home runs from 2007-2016 belongs to Adam Dunn, at 59%. Jim Thome comes in at 58%, then you have Russell Branyan and Chris Carter at 57%, Jason Giambi at 56%, and Alex Rodriguez at 55%. The modern super-sluggers, Stanton and Davis, are both at 54%. These are the kings of old player skills, the three-true-outcome stars who swing for the moon on every pitch, and they’re all showing that having 60% of your extra base hits go for home runs is a practical limit.
So, realistically, Schwarber isn’t going to keep getting so many of his extra base hits to go over the fence. If you give him a still-top-of-the-slugger-chain 55% HR/XBH rate, then he would distributed his 2015 extra base hits as 12 doubles, one triple, and 15 home runs, instead of 6/1/21. Just that change would have cost him 12 total bases from last year, knocking his slugging percentage down by 50 points, and that’s with an optimistic view of his power output, putting him in the same class as guys like Stanton and Davis.
Just something to consider if youre expecting Scwarber to be a 40 HR, .285 hitter. You are talking elite, which signs say he wont be
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