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re: MLB Thread 8/14 - 8/20
Posted on 8/19/23 at 1:29 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 8/19/23 at 1:29 pm to WestCoastAg
say hello the new NL WAR leader
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 1:30 pm to WestCoastAg
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 1:37 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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His major deals have been a disaster for the most part. The Mookie deal most notably.
Eh, I don't really agree with this. The Mookie situation was already decided when he took the job and was never going to be a winnable trade. He was told to move him and everybody already knew it which tanked the return at the negotiation table. He was still able to dump the Price contract (which was a really big deal for us), got an above average everyday player in Verdugo and Wong has turned into one of the better catchers in the AL. Jeter Downs was also in that deal. He was the highest rated guy we got and was supposed to be the crown jewel of the deal, but he looked really bad while he was here and was DFA'd.
Bloom gets a lot of hate from the internet fans, but I think he has done a really good job so far all things considered. His biggest mistake was not getting under the luxury last year. In less than four years we've gone from dead last in the farm rankings to top 5 and now we have money to spend this offseason. I'm expecting us to make a bit of splash, particularly in the pitching market. They are going to make a strong push for Yamamoto and another guy like Urias/Nola/Snell.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 1:39 pm to Chadaristic
The Story deal is a disaster and it felt like him making a move because people expected them to. It never made sense to me
Posted on 8/19/23 at 1:49 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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The Story deal is a disaster
That can be fair to say so far due to the injuries. Now that he's healthy and the elbow is surgically repaired, i'm of the opinion the 6/140 is pretty good value for a player like Story. He just needs to stay healthy now.
It's just hard for me to call that kind of a deal a disaster when you look around and see deals like 11/280 for Bogaerts and 6/200 for Correa and 10/341 for Lindor.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 1:57 pm to Chadaristic
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internet fans
How dare you
Bloom doesn’t deserve all of the blame. Ultimately, Bloom can only work within the boundaries set by John Henry, but let’s not forget Bloom got nothing for Martinez, Boegarts, and Eovaldi. He should have traded those guys knowing ownership was never going to pay them. He has done a great job with the farm otherwise though, I would agree.
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They are going to make a strong push for Yamamoto and another guy like Urias/Nola/Snell.
Snell is probably the guy based on his relationship with Bloom from their Tampa days. I’d be happy with any of the three. I would love to have Nola, but I think he wants to be closer to his family in Baton Rouge. They just built a massive compound for all of the families to live on.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 2:02 pm to Chadaristic
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Why would he agree to this?
Pure unadulterated ego haha.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 2:02 pm to Chadaristic
I think it all depends on him getting back to play SS. But the rumors were there that he couldn’t even as he hit the market, so it’s not really hindsight. And they signed him to play 2B with Bogaerts already under contract. He also just doesn’t seem to fit the player type Boston has targeted. I never understood the move
Posted on 8/19/23 at 2:09 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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How dare you
Wasn't meaning to lump you in with that crowd.
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let’s not forget Bloom got nothing for Martinez, Boegarts, and Eovaldi
Agreed on Martinez for sure. It was super obvious he should have been moved at the deadline last year.
Bogaerts had a no trade clause so there wasn't much Bloom could do about that. We made him an offer, but San Diego did what they did. I don't miss Bogey at all though tbh and that contract is already looking pretty ugly.
We tried to bring Eovaldi back in the offseason and I think that was the plan all along. We gave him an offer and he and his agent thought they could get a better deal so they went shopping. Days/weeks went by and we spent the money on Jansen and Martin. Eovaldi came back to Bloom and tried to get the initial deal we offered him and Bloom didn't want to do it. Eovaldi ended up in Texas with a smaller deal than what we offered to begin with and Boston ended up with comp picks for him and Bogey.
I probably sound like a Bloom apologist at this point, but it is what it is I guess.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 2:12 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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I think it all depends on him getting back to play SS. But the rumors were there that he couldn’t even as he hit the market, so it’s not really hindsight. And they signed him to play 2B with Bogaerts already under contract. He also just doesn’t seem to fit the player type Boston has targeted. I never understood the move
He's looked really good at SS so far in his return and the arm looks like it's back to full strength. One tin foil hat conspiracy that I think might have some truth to it is that Bloom wanted Story at SS and never had any real motivation to retain Bogaerts at all in the first place.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 2:14 pm to Chadaristic
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I probably sound like a Bloom apologist at this point, but it is what it is I guess.
You’re in the Bloominati
I don’t hate the guy and think overall he’s done well. It’s just when he makes a mistake they’re big ones. He’s going into the last year of his contract, so I expect him to make some moves for a run next year. We’re going to find out exactly where ownership stands one way or the other.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 2:20 pm to Chadaristic
I don’t think he’s bad. He gets raked over the coals by the national media for the Betts deal but I think he was backed into a corner where he understood ownership was unlikely to pay Betts and he had to get something for him. Like you said, the value isn’t bad at all when you consider Betts had a year of control left. He looks like the smartest guy in the room on the Yoshida deal, who looks to be a core piece of a lineup going forward. Boston has drafted very well under him. If Story can lock down SS until Mayer is ready that would be huge
Posted on 8/19/23 at 2:23 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Nats will spend as well and are for sale. Especially once Corbin/Strasburg are gone. Considering how many of their stars left in FA I could see a new ownership group locking up Crews and/or Wood to a mega deal pretty quickly if they perform
Yeah those are two really bad contracts. I think Corbin has a couple more years on his and Strasburg may never pitch again.
I think majority of fans want new ownership quickly. I know the owner of the Capitals talked about buying at one time. I think he offered 2 billion but the Lerner family rejected it.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 2:30 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Mayer is probably a 2024 call up. Story thankfully has no issue with moving to 2B and if Story returns to who he was offensively and Mayer is the prospect everyone thinks he is, that’s one hell of a middle infield.
Yoshida is friggin machine out there. At one point he had gone 15 games or something without a swing and a miss
Yoshida is friggin machine out there. At one point he had gone 15 games or something without a swing and a miss
Posted on 8/19/23 at 2:51 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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The Red Sox are 5-0 against starters who entered today ranked 1-through-4 in MLB in ERA:
2-0 vs. Gerrit Cole (10.0 IP, 8 ER)
1-0 vs. Nathan Eovaldi (5.1 IP, 4 ER)
1-0 vs. Blake Snell (4.0 IP, 6 ER)
1-0 vs. Justin Steele (6.0 IP, 6 R/1 ER)
Posted on 8/19/23 at 2:56 pm to Chadaristic
And somehow have also lost series to the Rockies, Nationals, and Athletics
Posted on 8/19/23 at 3:04 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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The Yankees have lost seven straight games, tied for their longest losing streak since dropping eight straight in August 1995.
The Yanks were outscored by 27 runs over the last five games, the most they've been outscored in a five-game span since May 28-June 2, 2005 (-28).
Posted on 8/19/23 at 3:10 pm to Chadaristic
tDecline is real
Posted on 8/19/23 at 3:19 pm to CobraCommander83
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The Blue Jays have DFA'd Paul DeJong.
They acquired him via trade 18 days ago
Posted on 8/19/23 at 3:53 pm to Chadaristic
I wonder the last time a division had 5 teams with 60+ wins at this point in the season. Brutal.
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