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re: MLB Awards: Who do you have?
Posted on 9/25/17 at 9:48 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Posted on 9/25/17 at 9:48 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Stanton .637 slg 57HR 360TB
Votto .571 slg 35HR 308 TB
Slugging /=/ OPS
Votto .571 slg 35HR 308 TB
Slugging /=/ OPS
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 9:57 pm to Lester Earl
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Cause he is putting up one of the best slugging seasons of all time
Da hell else you need.
23rd best slugging season since 2000. 46th since 1950
Votto is having the 12th best OBP season since 2000. 15th since 1950.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:11 pm to barry
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23rd best slugging season since 2000. 46th since 1950
and outside the steroid era? Take away all those guys from 1994ish-2006ish
Stanton is a small hot streak from having more HR in the second half than Votto has had all season.
no one gives a shite if you lead the league in walks, bare
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:12 pm to barry
60 homeruns FTW!
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:12 pm to barry
OBP correlates to run scoring better than SLG does too. That said, Stanton plays a slightly more valuable defensive position and plays in a much less friendly offensive park. Pretty much flip a coin between the two (for who should win). I think Stanton is much more likely to actually win it.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:18 pm to Lester Earl
Yeah I was saying that Stanton is having a "historic slugging season" and yet votto still leads in OPS because of how good he has been. It's ok to just admit that votto had a better year but Stanton hit more home runs
Posted on 9/25/17 at 10:34 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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It's ok to just admit that votto had a better year but Stanton hit more home runs
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:29 am to The Seaward
Kluber has a major lead in bWAR. Sale has like 10 more ip now, so that ip lead is becoming less and less relevant.
You could make a good case for either, but I believe Kluber leads in the majority of most categories. Sale has K% and fWAR, but I think Kluber has K-BB%. I probably moved to Kluber in the past couple weeks as he continue to pitch at an unparalleled level since June 1.
You could make a good case for either, but I believe Kluber leads in the majority of most categories. Sale has K% and fWAR, but I think Kluber has K-BB%. I probably moved to Kluber in the past couple weeks as he continue to pitch at an unparalleled level since June 1.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:30 am to The Seaward
I thought OPS correlated slightly better with expected run production than OBP. Or do I have that backwards? 
Posted on 9/26/17 at 4:33 am to Vicks Kennel Club
Judge and Bellinger are making people overlook some really good rookie seasons as well. Seems there was a lot of good baseball this year
Posted on 9/26/17 at 4:50 am to tduecen
Yeah, I mean Ian Happ has almost 25 homers & 70 rbis in 110 games played, and also plays like 6 positions, but no one outside of Chicago knows who he is...Bellinger is ridiculous
Posted on 9/26/17 at 5:01 am to Yak
Trey Mancini, Benintendi, Hoskins, DeJong, Devers, Margot, Aguilar, Olson, Bell, Montgomery, Freeland, etc
Posted on 9/26/17 at 6:55 am to Vicks Kennel Club
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I thought OPS correlated slightly better with expected run production than OBP. Or do I have that backwards?
I'm not sure on OBP vs OPS, but I know OBP is more correlated than slugging. So by just adding them up OPS overweights slugging and underweights OBP.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 6:58 am to Vicks Kennel Club
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Kluber has a major lead in bWAR. Sale has like 10 more ip now, so that ip lead is becoming less and less relevant. You could make a good case for either, but I believe Kluber leads in the majority of most categories. Sale has K% and fWAR, but I think Kluber has K-BB%. I probably moved to Kluber in the past couple weeks as he continue to pitch at an unparalleled level since June 1.
Sale has K%-BB% by 1.5%. I don't disagree with anything else you said though. They are both more than worthy IMO.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 7:14 am to The Seaward
Ok cool, I had looked at Fangraphs leaderboards like 12 hours earlier and was going off memory.
I actually want them both to win as co-winners. I love watching Kluber and Sale is the best active pitcher to not win the Cy.
I actually want them both to win as co-winners. I love watching Kluber and Sale is the best active pitcher to not win the Cy.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 7:40 am to barry
Wonder if we have any shockers
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:41 am to tduecen
Sale’s bad start last night really improvs Klubers chances
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Chris Sale since August: 11 G, 66 IP, 62 H, 30 ER, 13 HR, 16 BB, 97 K, 4.09 ERA
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