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re: MJ Resume Through Age 29 vs LeBron Resume Through Age 29
Posted on 6/17/14 at 5:27 pm to GreenTrout
Posted on 6/17/14 at 5:27 pm to GreenTrout
Also add his ACC freshman of the year. Since we're talking age instead of just NBA tenure. Good catch.
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 5:28 pm to cas4t
quote:I have yet to see where you have pointed out those are the wrong numbers for the players at 29. I have also yet to see you prove the point that age isnt the determining factor upon a players retirement
Spin it however you want. I know no matter what LeBron fanboys are gonna continue to fanboy. No matter if they're proven wrong or not.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 5:30 pm to cas4t
quote:
Also add his ACC freshman of the year.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 5:32 pm to lsupride87
When Jordan was in college at UNC there was no 3 pt line, had to defer to the other solid NBA talent on the team in Dean Smiths system, and played in an era when Smith employed a "four corners" offense which severely slowed down the game.
Think about that for a second. Not only was he just not allowed to go off for 30 a night, but his individual offensive development was squelched in favor of a system.
Lebron was allowed to freely and quickly expand his game and learn how to dominate from HS straight into the NBA.
I'd say it helped Mike eventually be the more complete player, and the GOAT, but this comparison of age is bogus because of the development differences.
Think about that for a second. Not only was he just not allowed to go off for 30 a night, but his individual offensive development was squelched in favor of a system.
Lebron was allowed to freely and quickly expand his game and learn how to dominate from HS straight into the NBA.
I'd say it helped Mike eventually be the more complete player, and the GOAT, but this comparison of age is bogus because of the development differences.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 5:32 pm to cas4t
And 2X NCAA All 1st team
And the Naismith
And the Wooden POY
And the Naismith
And the Wooden POY
Posted on 6/17/14 at 5:33 pm to bgtiger
quote:At the end of their careers, they will be judged by their accomplishments. And so far, Lebron has a leg up on Jordan. That is all the age thing proves. Unless there is a new rule that kicks Lebron out the league when he plays a certain number of seasons, but I am unaware that exists
I'd say it helped Mike eventually be the more complete player, and the GOAT, but this comparison of age is bogus because of the development differences.
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 6/17/14 at 5:33 pm to cas4t
quote:Also need to add lebron was all state Ohio football too
And 2X NCAA All 1st team
And the Naismith
And the Wooden POY
Posted on 6/17/14 at 5:35 pm to bgtiger
And lsu pride I'm on the road now so I'll come put you in your place a little later tonight. Just keep hitting refresh.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 5:35 pm to cas4t
quote:ok
And lsu pride I'm on the road now so I'll come put you in your place a little later tonight. Just keep hitting refresh.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 5:56 pm to lsupride87
How is this still a debate? Lebron ain't Jordan, and anybody trying to convince themselves or others that Lebron is actually a better player is just a damn fool. Get over it, fan boys.
Lebron is great, MJ is greater.
Lebron is great, MJ is greater.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 6:00 pm to cubsfan5150
quote:It's not a secret that Jordan would not have been ready for the NBA at age 18.
Jordan was not, Lol...
I listened to James Worthy on the radio maybe about a week ago say that he was better than Jordan when Jordan came out of high school. He said Jordan was very raw. He worked very hard to become the player he was, but he was not NBA-ready.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 6:05 pm to PrimeTime Money
Worked.... That's what separates MJ from LJ
Posted on 6/17/14 at 6:22 pm to cas4t
quote:
Also add his ACC freshman of the year
only on tigerdroppings can a single conference freshman of the year award be used in comparison against a NBA rookie of the year.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 6:35 pm to Volmanac
The numbers don't lie, but they don't tell the whole truth. The only thing I get from the OP is that MJ stats in less years in the league are on par with LBJ.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 6:51 pm to PrimeTime Money
Who has been other than KG and LeBron?
Posted on 6/17/14 at 7:02 pm to cubsfan5150
LINK
Read that, imagine it's the year 2000, and tell me that MJ wouldn't have gone pro if he wanted to when he left high school.
Was he polished? No, but there's no doubt he would have been drafted very high.
Read that, imagine it's the year 2000, and tell me that MJ wouldn't have gone pro if he wanted to when he left high school.
Was he polished? No, but there's no doubt he would have been drafted very high.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 7:42 pm to lsupride87
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I have yet to see where you have pointed out those are the wrong numbers for the players at 29.
It's not that the numbers are wrong. It's just that the criteria is worthless. Going by age is pointless given that they started their careers at different ages.
Jordan through age 29 season: 667 games
James through age 29 season: 842 games.
Jordan gets to 848 games at the end of the 1996-97 season when he's 33 years old. Hell, Jordan only played 1072 games. Lebron is 78.5% of the way to Jordan's total amount of regular season games played.
Even if we add in playoff games, Jordan only had 179 playoff games compared to James' current 158 playoff games.
LeBron James should beat Jordan's numbers. He has a lot more time to play and will easily pass Jordan is games played if he plays more than 3 years.
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:06 pm to bbrownso
quote:Hypothetical: If Lebron gets 8 titles and 8 MVPs, I'm assuming well he played more years will be the go to then correct?
It's not that the numbers are wrong. It's just that the criteria is worthless. Going by age is pointless given that they started their careers at different ages. Jordan through age 29 season: 667 games James through age 29 season: 842 games. Jordan gets to 848 games at the end of the 1996-97 season when he's 33 years old. Hell, Jordan only played 1072 games. Lebron is 78.5% of the way to Jordan's total amount of regular season games played. Even if we add in playoff games, Jordan only had 179 playoff games compared to James' current 158 playoff games. LeBron James should beat Jordan's numbers. He has a lot more time to play and will easily pass Jordan is games played if he plays more than 3 years.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:20 pm to lsupride87
Hypothetical: If LeBron is ever as good as Jordan, it will be admitted. As of now, he isn't.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:28 pm to cubsfan5150
quote:But he is clearly more accomplished then Jordan was at 29. That is a simple fact as well
Hypothetical: If LeBron is ever as good as Jordan, it will be admitted. As of now, he isn't.
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