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Minor League Baseball - Ridiculous New Rules
Posted on 3/14/18 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 3/14/18 at 3:45 pm
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Looks like all extra innings will begin with a runner on 2nd base. Even in AAA ball. A complete farce in my opinion. I question the judgement of whoever made this decision.
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Minor League Baseball today announced rule and procedure changes aimed at reducing the length of extra innings games and the number of mound visits during a game throughout Minor League Baseball. In addition, the Triple-A and Double-A levels will use a 15-second pitch clock with no runners on base.
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EXTRA INNINGS
At all levels of Minor League Baseball, extra innings will begin with a runner on second base. The runner at second base will be the player in the batting order position previous to the leadoff batter of the inning (or a substitute for that player). By way of example, if the number five hitter in the batting order is due to lead off the 10th inning, the number four player in the batting order (or a pinch-runner for such player) shall begin the inning on second base. Any runner or batter removed from the game for a substitute shall be ineligible to return to the game, as is the case in all circumstances under the Official Baseball Rules.
Looks like all extra innings will begin with a runner on 2nd base. Even in AAA ball. A complete farce in my opinion. I question the judgement of whoever made this decision.
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 3/14/18 at 3:49 pm to Apache
How does that affect ERA?
This question is more impactful if this were a rule for the majors since ERA is one of the stats used in arbitration hearings, however you may feel about it's usefulness.
But I still feel like it's a relevant question.
ETA: I don't agree with just putting the runner on the base. Cutting time between pitches, whether by clock or enforcing the batter staying in the box, I'm all for.
This question is more impactful if this were a rule for the majors since ERA is one of the stats used in arbitration hearings, however you may feel about it's usefulness.
But I still feel like it's a relevant question.
ETA: I don't agree with just putting the runner on the base. Cutting time between pitches, whether by clock or enforcing the batter staying in the box, I'm all for.
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 3/14/18 at 3:50 pm to Apache
This is going to kill my enjoyment of minor league baseball
Posted on 3/14/18 at 3:51 pm to Apache
I think some minor league levels have already experimented with starting with a runner on 2nd base in extra innings. It's a terrible rule. Pitch clock is a good rule. I don't mind mound visits being limited given the parameters
although the number of visits should be extended for games going into extra innings. But I do hate when managers make visits to the mound as a stalling tactic to get their bullpen ready. 6 visits in AAA, 8 in AA, and 10 in A ball is plenty for a 9 inning game
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Visits by coaches and position players will be limited based on the classification level. Triple-A clubs will be allowed six (6) visits per team, Double-A clubs will be allowed eight (8) visits per team, Single-A clubs will be allowed 10 visits per team and there will not be a limit on mound visits for Short Season and Rookie-level clubs.
although the number of visits should be extended for games going into extra innings. But I do hate when managers make visits to the mound as a stalling tactic to get their bullpen ready. 6 visits in AAA, 8 in AA, and 10 in A ball is plenty for a 9 inning game
Posted on 3/14/18 at 3:54 pm to lsufball19
I think they may have done the runner on second thing in the Arizona Fall League, which it's perfectly fine for. Honestly, as much as I don't like the rule, it's probably good for the AZL and GCL.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 3:59 pm to Apache
If ur going to put the runner out there, wait till 12th.
At least give them 3 innings, then put ur gimmick shite out there.
At least give them 3 innings, then put ur gimmick shite out there.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 4:03 pm to Apache
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At all levels of Minor League Baseball, extra innings will begin with a runner on second base.
Baseball needs to stop going out of their way to appeal to people who don't like watching baseball.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 4:06 pm to Apache
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At all levels of Minor League Baseball, extra innings will begin with a runner on second base
Posted on 3/14/18 at 4:09 pm to Apache
Regarding book keeping, statistically how did that runner get on second base?
Posted on 3/14/18 at 4:09 pm to Apache
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At all levels of Minor League Baseball, extra innings will begin with a runner on second base.
Baseball is one sport where the fans don't want you messing with it - a lot of purists out there. Hell people still bitch about the DH.
You can't make baseball more "time friendly" to the fan.
It's like Cricket, you either like it and have the time to watch or you don't.
The one thing I agree with is trying to curtail the excessive mound visits and stepping on and off the mound, scratching your head and crotch for 5 minutes between pitches.
Hitters want to hit while amped...pitchers use these stall tactics to irritate the batters.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 4:13 pm to Jack Daniel
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MILB notes that the baserunner will be treated as if he reached on an error without actually awarding the defensive team an error -- meaning, in the simplest terms, that he won't count toward the pitcher's ERA if he scores.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 4:20 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
The only clock needed for baseball is the one that tells us what time it is.
Like the clock Roy Hobbs smashed in The Natural (One of the best sports flicks ever)
Like the clock Roy Hobbs smashed in The Natural (One of the best sports flicks ever)
Posted on 3/14/18 at 7:57 pm to Apache
I don’t like it. Especially putting a runner on 2nd in extra innings. I go to several minor league games a year, so I’ll see first hand if this improves the game.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:02 pm to Speedy G
I agree. If games are 10-15 minutes quicker I don’t suddenly see droves and droves of new fans wanting to watch. It’s always going to be a slow paced game no matter what rules are changed.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:04 pm to Jack Daniel
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This post was edited on 4/3/23 at 2:48 am
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:58 pm to msutiger
In other news, CBS has expanded the number and duration of commercial breaks for its SEC College Football Game of the Week.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:45 pm to ProjectP2294
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I don't agree with just putting the runner on the base. Cutting time between pitches, whether by clock or enforcing the batter staying in the box, I'm all for.
This
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:16 pm to FightinTigersDammit
If the pitcher is going to stare at the signs and then look over at 1st for 5 hours - then the batter has every right to call time and step out of the box.
Why should the batter have to be "frozen" in the ready hit position while the pitcher seemingly can stall as long as he wants.
If the batter is to be required to stay in the box then pitchers should be required to spend less than 10 seconds between pitches.
Both sides need to be accountable. But besides Nomar Garciaparra back in the day, the pitchers are mostly at fault to blame for the current state of affairs - not the hitters. Hitters aren't going to be on edge waiting for a pitch for 20 seconds...they are going to step out and regroup. Pitchers love to make hitters be on edge forever and wait, wait, wait for loss of concentration from the batter, physical readiness, mental fatigue, etc.
Pitchers shouldn't be allowed to dictate the pace of the game to their choosing. That's way too much power.
Why should the batter have to be "frozen" in the ready hit position while the pitcher seemingly can stall as long as he wants.
If the batter is to be required to stay in the box then pitchers should be required to spend less than 10 seconds between pitches.
Both sides need to be accountable. But besides Nomar Garciaparra back in the day, the pitchers are mostly at fault to blame for the current state of affairs - not the hitters. Hitters aren't going to be on edge waiting for a pitch for 20 seconds...they are going to step out and regroup. Pitchers love to make hitters be on edge forever and wait, wait, wait for loss of concentration from the batter, physical readiness, mental fatigue, etc.
Pitchers shouldn't be allowed to dictate the pace of the game to their choosing. That's way too much power.
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:43 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Baseball is one sport where the fans don't want you messing with it - a lot of purists out there. Hell people still bitch about the DH. You can't make baseball more "time friendly" to the fan. It's like Cricket, you either like it and have the time to watch or you don't. The one thing I agree with is trying to curtail the excessive mound visits and stepping on and off the mound, scratching your head and crotch for 5 minutes between pitches.
spot on. and frick the American league and their damn DH bull shite.
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