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re: Mike Trout at Top Golf or some place like it

Posted on 3/2/20 at 10:35 am to
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 3/2/20 at 10:35 am to
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I just recently went to Top Golf and I was hitting them into the back net.


Correct. The back net is usually about 215 yards.

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The balls are chipped and there are hundreds of sensors around the range. It shows where your ball goes.


It shows where your ball lands. They aren't tracking ball speed, spin rate, apex, etc. like a trackman.

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His ball was higher than the net when it reached the end of the range based on the screen. The ball went over.


The screen shows nothing other than a ball reaching the limits of the rear sensor.




In 2019 Cameron Champ's average distance to Apex was 211 yards on the PGA Tour.

Phil Mickelson had the highest average Apex point of 140 feet.



You're saying Mike Trout exceeded those averages with a titanium head, regular-flex shaft, & restricted-ball?
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/2/20 at 10:59 am to
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In 2019 Cameron Champ's average distance to Apex was 211 yards on the PGA Tour.


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Phil Mickelson had the highest average Apex point of 140 feet.


The key word in there is “average”.

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It shows where your ball lands. They aren't tracking ball speed, spin rate, apex, etc. like a trackman.


The screen shows nothing other than a ball reaching the limits of the rear sensor.




You’re wrong.



From the Top Golf website:

“Topgolf is revolutionizing the game by bringing you the hottest innovations in golf. Using state-of-the-art technology, Toptracer tracks the flight path of every golf shot and displays it right on your bay’s HD screen.

You can now watch your game the same way you watch your favorite pro golfers on TV.”
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 11:03 am
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 3/2/20 at 11:06 am to
I can usually hit the back net at top golf with a 6 iron. I think it’s only 200 or something
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 11:11 am to
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You’re wrong.


They don’t have Top Tracer at every location, FYI.

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The key word in there is “average”.


Those are the leaders of the foremost professional golf tour in each stat, playing their finely-tuned clubs and balls.

LINK

Most of the PGA Tour didn't reach 215 yards on any peak distance to apex stat.
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 11:34 am
Posted by SoFunnyItsNot
Member since Mar 2013
4635 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 11:23 am to
man didn't realize we had so many driving pros on this website shite. if you can't see how smoked that ball is I don't know what to tell you. those guys were astonished by the length of that shot. needless to say I think it was crushed. I mean you can see how hard he hit it. tough crowd
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 3/2/20 at 11:28 am to
I never said he didn’t smoke the ball
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/2/20 at 11:37 am to
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Looks pretty clearly like it went over the net to me


It's 235 yards to the bottom of the back net which is 120-150 feet high. He didn't hit it over.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 3/2/20 at 11:38 am to
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I can usually hit the back net at top golf with a 6 iron. I think it’s only 200 or something



Plenty of people can, but no one believes you can, Daniel.
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 11:39 am
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26508 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 11:38 am to
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You're saying Mike Trout exceeded those averages


Not even sure he had to exceed those averages to get the ball over the net given how elevated he is when hitting the ball from the upper floor at Top Golf. Starting that high up gives you a significant advantage.

Also you are talking about averages of people playing in golf tournaments trying to make all kinds of different shots on a golf course.

Trout is just trying to crush a ball as far as he can. If those pros you are citing were just trying to crush a ball as far as they can those averages would go way up.

Can you not see the trajectory of that ball in the video? That thing went over the net.

Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27828 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 12:01 pm to
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It's 235 yards to the bottom of the back net which is 120-150 feet high. He didn't hit it over.
It’s not 235 yards. It varies from 205 to 220. The nets also vary from 120 to 150 feet.

But here’s the thing... Top Golf has several levels. If you’re on the third level, you are 30+ feet up.

Here is a video of JB Holmes hitting it over the net at Top Golf:

https://youtu.be/bSsah9eluNE
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27828 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 12:06 pm to
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Those are the leaders of the foremost professional golf tour
You’re acting like Mike Trout is just some schmo off the street. He crushes baseballs for a living, and clearly has translated that to an incredibly powerful golf swing.

Looking at that video, I’d say Trout can hit a golf ball as far as anyone on the pga tour.

PS, here is a video of JB Holmes hitting the ball over the net at Top Golf:

https://youtu.be/bSsah9eluNE

If JB can do it from ground level, why don’t you believe Trout did it?
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 12:13 pm
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/2/20 at 12:14 pm to
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If JB can do it from ground level, why don’t you believe Trout did it?


I'm amazed at some of the people in this thread ignoring their own eyes and making it seem like it is impossible to hit a ball over the net at Top Golf.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27828 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 12:20 pm to
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I'm amazed at some of the people in this thread ignoring their own eyes and making it seem like it is impossible to hit a ball over the net at Top Golf.
The main person arguing about it is using a screen name of “golfer”.

He’s probably butthurt that a baseball player got up there and hit a ball further than he ever dreamed of and probably further than most of the guys on the tour he watches on TV.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12594 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 12:23 pm to
That ball was over the fence.


I do think most pro golfers could hit it over too
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/2/20 at 12:27 pm to
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They don’t have Top Tracer at every location, FYI.


They have it at the one in the video
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 3/2/20 at 12:58 pm to
That ball was definitely smoked, it was also definitely hooking.

And just to be clear...we're saying that people think he hit it over a net that was 200-225 yards away, and which is anywhere from 120-150 feet hight?

In the PGA tour, the average apex height is around 108 feet, and the average distance to apex is probably right around 185 yards.

Assume he's 30 ft off the ground...he would need an apex of more than 78 ft to clear the the low range of the net (which he probably reached on that drive) but he'd need to hit that apex 15 yards beyond the PGA average...and that's just for the short end of the course.

He did not hit it over the fricking net. Keep in mind that ball was starting to hook pretty significantly which would also impact the distance.
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 12:59 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39572 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 1:04 pm to
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ball was starting to hook pretty significantly


No, no it wasn't. Did you not pay attention to the screen at all? It started out between the first and second poles from the left, and ended between the first and second poles from the left.


ETA: the JB Holmes video shows the tracer going outside the back net, which the Trout one did not do. It stopped at the edge of the net. Assuming it is the same video technology, I would think Trout's looked to hit right at the top of the net.
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 1:10 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
58634 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 1:10 pm to
Roid rage
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 1:16 pm to
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ETA: the JB Holmes video shows the tracer going outside the back net, which the Trout one did not do. It stopped at the edge of the net. Assuming it is the same video technology, I would think Trout's looked to hit right at the top of the net.


So he didn’t hit it over the net?

Holmes is also using his driver.

I’m not saying Trout can’t do it. But those clubs suck. Especially with the shaft flex on someone with that high of a swing speed.
Posted by SoFunnyItsNot
Member since Mar 2013
4635 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 1:16 pm to
I wasn't referring you exactly. you were just the person I replied to
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