re: Michigan had their meeting with the NCAA today. What&#39;s your prediction on the outcome?

Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa

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Posted on 6/8/25 at 3:46 pm to RLDSC FAN

Pat Forde is gonna print the Vacate t-shirt and wear it gay proudly around Ann-Arbor while absolutely no cares are given by anyone.

Posted by GoGators1995

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Posted on 6/8/25 at 4:47 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa

I mean Michigan fans sure cared about Ohio St vacating wins over some tattoos and jewelry.

Posted by taylork37

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Posted on 6/8/25 at 7:13 pm to Gen Patton

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In-season in-person scouting of opponents how Michigan outsourced it is legal, read a book

MGOBLOG...lol.

Also, is Connor Stallions on the CMU sidelines in a costume legal? If so, I guess Ill shut up.

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Oh your naughty is pretty long historically but OSU fans never let facts get in their way

Perhaps neither of us are in a position to speak. Would you admit to that? Probably not.

This post was edited on 6/8/25 at 7:15 pm

Posted by Gen Patton

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Posted on 6/8/25 at 7:27 pm to taylork37

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Also, is Connor Stallions on the CMU sidelines in a costume legal? If so, I guess Ill shut up.

Who was playing that game?

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Perhaps neither of us are in a position to speak. Would you admit to that? Probably not.

I’m an LSU fan, I know my school’s alleged or reported sketchy history. I’m not one of those sanctimonious, pretentious fans who claims our program is a paragon of integrity, maybe that’s why I’m more sympathetic to defending Michigan than most college fans. It’s the 21st Century, every college program knows everything there is to know about the opponent, if you’re out-talented you lose, that’s the reality.

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Posted by Dire Wolf

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Posted on 6/8/25 at 7:38 pm to Gen Patton

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’m not one of those sanctimonious, pretentious fans who claims our program is a paragon of integrity

Why this scandal is funny is because Michigan fans are universally those pretentious sanctimonious douchers who pretend that Michigan is completely above cheating

Posted by taylork37

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Posted on 6/8/25 at 7:48 pm to Gen Patton

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Who was playing that game?

MSU and CMU. What point are you trying to prove with that question?

Posted by Gen Patton

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Posted on 6/8/25 at 8:05 pm to taylork37

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MSU and CMU.

What was wrong with him being at that game?

Posted by Buckeye06

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Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:23 am to RLDSC FAN

Last week there was an SI article on the Michigan Board. It was the first time I've seen a Michigan writer kind of admit that vacating all the wins from Michigan's time with Stallions on staff is on the table:

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At this point, several possible outcomes are on the table - including massive fines, recruiting restrictions, a postseason ban, and even vacating some (or all) wins from when Stalions was on staff. Although Michigan fans have attempted to downplay what took place, it's clear that others around the country, including Big Ten coaches, are looking for the NCAA to make a statement with the punishment.

Prior to this, all most have heard from the Michigan beat was no vacating wins and a fine/some scholarships and maybe a postseason ban this year were on the table. I think the B1G, and especially the coaches in the B1G, want game vacated

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Posted by RLDSC FAN

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Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:35 am to Buckeye06

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Prior to this, all most have heard from the Michigan beat was no vacating wins and a fine/some scholarships and maybe a postseason ban this year were on the table. I think the B1G, and especially the coaches in the B1G, want game vacated

So not the national title? I don't think Michigan fans would care much as long as they get to keep the title

Posted by A12 Oxcart

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Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:42 am to Buckeye06

A post season ban, and I think Moore gets additional games because he was there and involved - Michigan can't play the sympathy card and claim "all the bad apples are gone."

I would love to see the pretentious douchebags get hammered harder, but I'm not betting on it. So we will get more smug from Eisen and Portnoy.

Posted by tide06

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Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:48 am to Clockwatcher68

Michigan should’ve been ineligible for that playoff making Washington the champion by virtue of wining their semi final game.

Bama vs UM vacated (NOT won by Bama)
UW won their semi final

UM wasn’t eligible based on the rules to even take the field against UW and based on the evidence would’ve finished the season ~ 2-0 with the rest vacated.

Therefore the champion that year would’ve been the Huskies.

Posted by Buckeye06

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Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:59 am to RLDSC FAN

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So not the national title? I don't think Michigan fans would care much as long as they get to keep the title

I'm not sure how the vacating wins would impact that if at all. If the B1G forces them to vacate the B1G title does that have any impact on the national title? Would they have been ineligible to play for it if they vacate all the wins that got them to the playoffs?

I really don't know how far that goes

Edit: There is growing belief the if the NCAA does not go far enough, the B1G will step in. Again not sure that gets to the national title but it could

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Posted by ChestRockwell

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Posted on 6/16/25 at 2:23 pm to RLDSC FAN

Stopped there with Pat Forde.

Posted by ecb

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Posted on 6/16/25 at 2:40 pm to RLDSC FAN

Pat on the wrist

Posted by Gen Patton

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Posted on 6/16/25 at 6:45 pm to tide06

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Michigan should’ve been ineligible for that playoff making Washington the champion by virtue of wining their semi final game.

Bama vs UM vacated (NOT won by Bama)
UW won their semi final

UM wasn’t eligible based on the rules to even take the field against UW and based on the evidence would’ve finished the season ~ 2-0 with the rest vacated.

Therefore the champion that year would’ve been the Huskies.

This melting over Michigan and college football's version of Spygate (if any rules were actually broken) is one of the most insecure, beta things ever committed by football fans, they shouldn't vacate anything and they should tell the NCAA and Ohio State to kick rocks. Every team knows everything about their opponents nowadays with the proliferation of social media and recording devices, just stop and take your medicine.

Posted by Buckeye06

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Posted on 6/16/25 at 7:06 pm to Gen Patton

You’ve never answered this.

So why did they do it if it’s not an advantage? Spend thousands each game on front row seats behind opponent bench for 30+ games for no advantage

Posted by AkronTiger

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Posted on 6/16/25 at 7:08 pm to RLDSC FAN

nothing will happen

Posted by Gen Patton

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Posted on 6/16/25 at 7:51 pm to Buckeye06

If I’m not an LSU football employee and a Conor Stalions type paid me to go to an opponent’s game and record their sideline, technically that’s not against the rules. It’s an interpretation thing, like Spygate and Deflategate was.