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Posted on 2/7/25 at 10:56 am to
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 10:56 am to
I know a lot have railed against the trade, or maybe more how it was done.

I have no dog in the fight here. Realistically though, who better do people think they could have gotten for him? Or is the main issue that at least publically they didn't reach out to hardly anyone to at least try and get some bidding wars going?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115112 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 10:59 am to
They didn’t reach out to other teams at all, publicly or privately

The Utah Jazz, which were a 3rd party to the actual trade, didn’t even know Luka was a part of the trade until an hour before it happened.

And usually when you trade a top 3 player in the league, you get some nice assets out of it. Getting an older vet is truly mystifying return on that kind of trade
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
124102 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Realistically though, who better do people think they could have gotten for him?


Luka Doncic

it was insane to trade him. I would have fired Nico Harrison on the spot for even bringing it up to me
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
35342 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:02 am to
Imagine making such a terrible trade that you receive death threats

Nico should quit out of embarrassment.
Posted by Stan Switek
Member since Apr 2017
470 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:04 am to
quote:

The Utah Jazz, which were a 3rd party to the actual trade, didn’t even know Luka was a part of the trade until an hour before it happened.


Ainge didn't even know about it until it was too late. No way he would've helped the Lakers had he known.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
124102 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:06 am to
quote:

Imagine making such a terrible trade that you receive death threats



And most normal people are like

"yeah death threats are crazy for this...

but..."
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37522 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:06 am to
quote:

And usually when you trade a top 3 player in the league, you get some nice assets out of it. Getting an older vet is truly mystifying return on that kind of trade


Anyone specific though? I'm just not seeing a lot of top players out there that I think many teams would trade for Luka. He is a great player but has some red flags. Most of the top players all seem to be in good spots at the moment and teams aren't looking to trade them.

Maybe someone like Gianis?

Now, I definitely think they should have gotten at least more draft picks or something out of it. I'm not saying the deal they did was good or anything, I'm just struggling to look at it realistically as far as player trades, who better they could have gotten. I just don't think that many teams out there would have been very interested.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37522 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Luka Doncic

it was insane to trade him. I would have fired Nico Harrison on the spot for even bringing it up to me


I mean, if you're fed up with the player then you are fed up with the player? None of us know what is going on there behind closed doors.

So, if you are trading him, who realistically do you think they could get for him that the other team would be willing to trade for?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
124102 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:09 am to
They wouldn't have gotten Giannis.

However execs were texting every insider imaginable saying they would have given almost anything if the bidding was open


I think you are missing the point. Trading Doncic AT ALL was insane. Just power trip egomaniac nonsense to even consider it.

If you do consider it, you get the largest haul in the history of the sport.

There are teams that could literally trade you 10 1st round picks.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37522 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:13 am to
quote:

They wouldn't have gotten Giannis.


So again, who better than Davis do people think they could realistically get?

quote:

I think you are missing the point


I'm not, maybe you are not understanding my question?

quote:

If you do consider it, you get the largest haul in the history of the sport.

There are teams that could literally trade you 10 1st round picks.


This is more to my question I originally asked. Saying they shouldn't trade him is pointless at this point, as it already happened. So, what is the realistic trade they should have made instead?

As I mentioned in another post, if Davis is the best player trade they could realistically get, is the main part of this being a bad deal that the didn't get nearly enough future draft picks?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51849 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:17 am to
quote:

If you do consider it, you get the largest haul in the history of the sport.


Zion plus how many picks?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
124102 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:23 am to
quote:

Saying they shouldn't trade him is pointless at this point,


That doesn't make any sense. There was absolutely no reason at all to trade him. None. Zero.

If you are going to trade him you don't limit yourself to one team.

You don't trade him for an oft injured 32 year old big man and one singular future pick.

They didn't even get the other pick that the Lakers could give or any young players
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37522 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:27 am to
Great, so now that we've circled back to my original quesiton and you've made it very clear you don't think they should have ever traded him, let's try this again.

Who realistically could they have gotten to make this a good trade? Is there a player out there that a team would have traded a player better than Davis for Luka?

If not, did they get the best player they could have, but really screwed the pooch on getting draft picks?
Posted by Stan Switek
Member since Apr 2017
470 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:40 am to
Since Davis is slotted for the 4, take any team you want with a capable power forward (Siakam, Jackson Jr., Mobley, Banchero) and add any number of draft picks depending on how good that player is. We will never know the details because teams weren't asked.

Dallas's situation is particularly desperate because they currently have very few picks because they were building around a young superstar and were willing to let them go. Now they have 2 aging stars and no draft picks.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37522 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:44 am to


Gotcha. So the real crutch is how awful they did getting draft picks mainly (with the understanding that them not entertaining bids was laughably dumb).
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115112 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:52 pm to
You’re being wildly obtuse about this

We don’t know what they could’ve gotten because they didn’t fricking try

Also the option of just not trading Luka is staring your right in the face, let’s not pretend they HAD to make this move
This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 12:53 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
124102 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37522 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

You’re being wildly obtuse about this

We don’t know what they could’ve gotten because they didn’t fricking try


I'm not being obtuse about anything, I'm literally asking what people think they could have gotten instead of what they did get. Asking for people's opinion is being obtuse? I'll repost my original two questions, they were pretty straightforward:

quote:

who better do people think they could have gotten for him? Or is the main issue that at least publically they didn't reach out to hardly anyone to at least try and get some bidding wars going?


You answered the second one in your first reply to me. There hasn't been much in the way of anyone answering the first one besides the last poster I responded to.

quote:

Also the option of just not trading Luka is staring your right in the face, let’s not pretend they HAD to make this move


Sure. It did happen though. Right or wrong, they wanted out of the Luka business and were obviously determined to do so. Opinions on that logic aside, he was getting traded one way or another. So, back to my original question I was trying to get answered to help me understand the magnitude of the trade better, what could they have realistically gotten that would have made this trade not a bad trade, that people think would be a possibility?

I think Fun Bunch said execs were saying they'd give almost anytihng if it was open bidding, but Gianis wouldn't be on the table. So who else that is better than Davis would legit be an option out there? Or is Davis probably the best player option they could have gotten and they just needed to negotiate way more draft picks?

This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 3:18 pm
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
38292 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

People take fandom a bit too serious…

They did trade a top 3 player in the NBA for a perennial stress fracture cripple
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
59952 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 3:27 pm to
quote:


I have no dog in the fight here. Realistically though, who better do people think they could have gotten for him? Or is the main issue that at least publicly they didn't reach out to hardly anyone to at least try and get some bidding wars going?


1. He never should have been traded. You just don't get rid of a 25 year old talent like him when he wanted to be here and his presence was FINALLY getting free agents to consider coming to Dallas. For Nico to say it's b/c they are win now mode when he just brought them to the Finals is spitting in every fan's face.

2. The return is a joke. AD is really good but is oft injured, is about to be 32, and is more than likely to leave once his contract is up. Only getting 1 first round pick is insane when Rudy fricking Gobert commanded 4 when he was traded.

3. Only talking to the Lakers and refusing to try to start a bidding war is indefensible. There is no way around it. The best case scenario w/that kind of decision is Nico and the Adelsons are complete morons.

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