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re: Manti Teo Is The Most Decorated College Player of All Time.

Posted on 12/7/12 at 4:24 am to
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 4:24 am to
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add the fact that at least three of his picks came from deflections and you have an average joe LB.


2 of his INTS came against Michigan who threw for 5 ints in that game. Denard fricking sucks throwing.

Another INT off fresh making his first start last game. Meh.

Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 4:56 am to
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Amazing how bad a year it is for dominate defensive players that this above average LB can become the most decorated college player of all time.


IKR.

Tyrann Mathieu last season had a far more impactful season against the most ranked opponents ever. His team was undefeated as well going into the heisman. He lead his team in tackles FROM THE CB position! (and he missed a game) He forced fumbles, had sacks, and scored defensive TDs. Something Te'o doesn't do. Look at this.

Teó

3 solo tackles against NAVY.
2 solo tackles against PURDUE.
3 solo tackles against MICHIGAN.
3 solo tackles against STANFORD.
1 solo tackle against BYU (LOL).
3 solo tackles against PITT.
3 solo tackles against Wake frickin Forrest.
3 solo tackles against USC.

0 forced fumbles, 1.5 sacks, maybe 5 pass deflections.

What a monster, right?

Man this guy is a GAME CHANGER right here. No he's not. He is a solid player, but he DOES NOT deserve the Heisman. His play is solid, but it does not wow me watching whatsoever. Manziel was the best player in the country this season and had his heisman moment against #1 Alabama in their yard. He has also passed former heisman winners Cam and Tebow in total SEC yards so he has the stats. Oh and don't give me he has 2 losses.. because Tebow had multiple losses in one of his heisman seasons. Griffin had 3 losses. Manziel had his team win 10 games, lost 2 games to top 5 teams and beat the #1 team in the country at their yard.. all while breaking into the new league as a freshman.

All this tells me is that Teo benefited from playing in a great defense against poor competition (IMO!) and getting in on a ton of gang tackling.. He had zero defensive TDs and about half his ints came of deflections. I mean really what exactly was so impressive here?
Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 5:01 am to
Te'o is a great LB. If you could have him on your team, you would. Jarvis Jones is also a great LB, but UGA isn't the platform ND is. It's an ascribed privileged status that some people just can't stomach.
Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
Member since Aug 2007
18332 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 5:11 am to
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Manti Teo Is The Most OVERRATED Decorated College Player of All Time


I agree
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 5:20 am to
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1 sack
0 forced fumbles



MINTER>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Manti!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:20 am to
What a sham.

Dude is nowhere near all that.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17360 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:36 am to
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And neither one deserved the Heisman


Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291106 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:39 am to
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2ints came vs Michgan


Yea, Manziel didn't pad his stats vs shitty teams. horrible argument

As far as most decorated player, that doesn't mean shite. AGAIN, every year is different. This year was devoid of major superstars of years passed, so he cleaned up. Being the most decorated doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean he is the best. It means he won the most awards in a given year, where every year is different. Means nothing. People shouldn't be so insulted
Posted by HeadCoach
Shady's Parking Lot
Member since Mar 2009
5659 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:52 am to
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Yea, Manziel didn't pad his stats vs shitty teams.


Manziel stats>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Teo stats. Try again
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:55 am to
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Being the most decorated doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean he is the best. It means he won the most awards in a given year, where every year is different. Means nothing. People shouldn't be so insulted


This.

Not understanding why this is so amazing/upsetting to people.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:59 am to
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Te'o is a great LB. If you could have him on your team


Well of course. There's no denying this.. however if it's NFL I would rather other options in the first round tbh.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:00 am to
Manziel gave one of the greatest performances I've seen all season and I've watched a ton of college football.. against the #1 team AND at their house... and probably the best defense in the nation.

Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:00 am to
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Luke Kuechly won it last year; no jimmies were rustled then.


Lol you dumb frick. Post Kuechly's stats and see if anyone thinks he didn't deserve every award he won.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291106 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:01 am to
Manziel is my winner.

I'm just saying to discount 2 INTs vs Michigan yet praise Manziel for his great numbers(much of what came vs bad teams) is hypocritical.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:02 am to
LINK

look at 4:15

BTW. Mosley is awesome. Hope the Saints get him at OLB.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 8:10 am
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26511 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:10 am to
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Probably most decorated for defensive player.



Which is kind of fricked up. I understand CFB is down this year, but Te'o isn't a top 5 LB of all time.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:11 am to
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Post Kuechly's stats


Kuechly played on a poverty BC team, whose defenses were on the field nearly all game; the players surrounding Kuechly were also awful.

to the lay person, this means he had more opportunities to acquire stats; really simple stuff here.

BC has another LB in the top 3 in tackles this season. coincidence? i think not. pls go and read an elementary math book while you're at it, lmao
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 8:13 am
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:23 am to
I hear ya. You are probably right. I just deep down expect Teo is going to win and I strongly disagree with that.

Another element is my strong dislike for ESPN pushing their agendas. I remember watching the games last Saturday and commentators being sure to pump him up and it wasn't even the ND game.

And I actually like Teó as a person. More so than the other guys I'm sure. But back to my main element and most important.. I just don't feel like he deserves the heisman. Period. He never once wow'ed me.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 8:28 am
Posted by nickhole5
Atlanta
Member since May 2010
342 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:28 am to
Manti Te'O 2012 Stats...
103 tackles, 52 solo, 51 assts...TFL,5.5...Sacks 1.5... Int's, 7...Fumble recovery, 1...
Heisman finalist and winner of every major defensive award...

Tony Taylor UGA LB, 2006 stats...
96 tackles, 65 solo, 31 assts...TFL, 7.5... Sacks 3... Int's 7... Fumble recovery, 3...
Second Team ALL-SEC...
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:30 am to
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Kuechly played on a poverty BC team, whose defenses were on the field nearly all game; the players surrounding Kuechly were also awful.

to the lay person, this means he had more opportunities to acquire stats; really simple stuff here.

BC has another LB in the top 3 in tackles this season. coincidence? i think not. pls go and read an elementary math book while you're at it, lmao


Riiiiiiiight. RG3 sucks because of what Nick Florence is doing this season right?

Have you seen what Kuechley is doing in the NFL? I'll never post on TD ever again if T'eo is 9 tackles short of the the league in tackles halfway through his rookie year. Will you do the same if he isn't?

T'eo is a good linebacker. The fact, however, that you think he's in Keuchly's area code is hysterical.
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