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re: Mac Jones now the highest career Yards per Attempt in the history of college football
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:33 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:33 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Perfected the 30 yard dump off and 50 yard slant. He’s above average at best
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:47 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Still not worth a 1st or 2nd rd pick
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:48 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Passing stats can be picked at all day long...
You can pick passing stats going back to Knute Rockne, and you still won't find a passer with more career Yards per Attempt, nor higher career completion percentage.
And how can you run your BS on a thread like this without knowing that Jones is one of the top long-ball passers (yards in the air) in the nation.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:52 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
InsecureU fans on the way to defend Burrow, despite him not needing to be defended. He had one of the greatest seasons ever last year as a college player and showed to be a really good rookie QB in the NFL.
Yet any mention of another college QB having a great season now, and immediately some people see it as an attack on Burrow. Amazing.
Yet any mention of another college QB having a great season now, and immediately some people see it as an attack on Burrow. Amazing.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 7:52 pm to Skyler97
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Its crazy how we looked at Burrows year as generational then Jones went and had a year similar in terms of efficiency
You mean better
Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:04 pm to Choupique19
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It’s amazing what those Bama receivers can do after they catch the bubble screen
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Jones' accuracy and ball placement have been sublime. No Power Five quarterback generated a lower uncatchable pass rate (18.9%) or passing grade (97.4) on throws over 10 yards downfield this year than Jones.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:04 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Doesn't ypa say more about the receivers than the QB?
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:09 pm to Barstools
quote:even if it's passes that don't travel far beyond the LOS (it's not fwiw, in the case of Jones), accuracy and timing still matter for a WR to get those YAC.
Doesn't ypa say more about the receivers than the QB?
Irrelevant in this case, as his air yards are great.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:18 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
According to the Rant, he’s just a “game manager”.
I would’ve happily taken him as a “game manager”, instead of him decommiting from Kentucky to go to Bama.
I would’ve happily taken him as a “game manager”, instead of him decommiting from Kentucky to go to Bama.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 8:31 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
You know that's still a rate stat that becomes harder to sustain with more attempts, right?
Posted on 1/2/21 at 9:28 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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And how can you run your BS on a thread like this without knowing that Jones is one of the top long-ball passers (yards in the air) in the nation.
Is it really BS when his top receiver leads the nation in YAC with 768 yards? That by itself is 20% of his passing yards this year. I'm not knocking Jones, either, but when nearly half of Devonta's receiving yards are coming after he catches the ball, it's less about the pass and more about the route and playmaking ability of the receiver.
And this thread isn't about yards in the air specifically--it's yards per attempt, which takes in YAC. Again, I'm not knocking Jones, but the stupidity of an 8 yard gain on a screen pass affecting YPA. Yards gained after the catch should not count towards yards per attempt. It complicates the metric, but at least it's a more honest assessment of where the ball is actually being thrown to, not how far the receiver ran after catching the pass.
Regardless, he will go down in the record books as the all-time leader in YPA, which is impressive.
Posted on 1/2/21 at 9:40 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Still not worth a 1st or 2nd rd pick
ok Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:01 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Is it really BS when his top receiver leads the nation in YAC with 768 yards?
And if he had a QB who hesitated a tenth of a second or two on almost every throw - do you still think the YAC would be exceptional?
Clue... it wouldn't
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:08 pm to Skyler97
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Its crazy how we looked at Burrows year as generational then Jones went and had a year similar in terms of efficiency
Worst defensive year across the NCAA/SEC in a long time, maybe ever, especially passing defense.
Very anomalous if you look at just conference games for the last 10 years there’s a massive spike in league average of YPA, YPG, QBR, COM%, etc
Mac has performed incredibly well, just saying everyone’s stats this year are pretty inflated. It’s just different this year and we all know it, whether or not we admit it.
Not sure why it hurt defenses more than offense, but it clearly did.
This post was edited on 1/2/21 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:15 pm to Cowboyfan89
quote:Well it has to be brought up when idiots start singing that it's that good because of the YAC. Ignoring that he's up there in air yards. Meaning your issue aaplis to every QB. So it's irrelevant.
And this thread isn't about yards in the air specifically--it's yards per attempt, which takes in YAC. Again, I'm not knocking Jones, but the stupidity of an 8 yard gain on a screen pass affecting YPA.
Go look up Chase and Jefferson's YAC last year. Then also realize Burrow was leading all of cfb in air yards per attempt. So coming back and saying his ypa is not great because of ypc is dumb
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:33 pm to redfish99
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Perfected the 30 yard dump off and 50 yard slant. He’s above average at best
Guess you’re not a Saints fan.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 12:37 am to castorinho
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even if it's passes that don't travel far beyond the LOS (it's not fwiw, in the case of Jones), accuracy and timing still matter for a WR to get those YAC
Fair, but I guess my point was more that he can't take those shots down field if his receivers weren't always open. Not taking anything from the dude, he still had to hit the open receivers
Posted on 1/3/21 at 7:02 am to castorinho
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Well it has to be brought up when idiots start singing that it's that good because of the YAC. Ignoring that he's up there in air yards. Meaning your issue aaplis to every QB. So it's irrelevant.
Maybe you should have read alittle further, because I said this wasn't about Jones, but the nonsense of including all "passing" yards:
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Again, I'm not knocking Jones, but the stupidity of an 8 yard gain on a screen pass affecting YPA.
I realize there isn't going to 100% agreement on this, and I don't really care either. My point is, Jeaux is trying to use this as some kind of "gotcha" to people thinking this is some "Mac vs Joe" issue everytime someone brings up Mac's stats, but in reality, it's no different than any other passing stat. As someone else pointed out, the higher the attempts, the lower that number likely is. And it's not solely dependent on where the QB throws the ball.
Yeah, both of those points apply to any and every QB. But Mac has some of the best WRs in college football, and the best in terms of YAC.
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