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re: Luca Doncic is the best 20 year old basketball player since Magic Johnson...

Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:26 pm to
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:26 pm to
he low-key does it all the time from what I'm learning. doesn't get the credit he deserves.

think it's bc we all look past him as just another "buckeye" poster lmao, no offense dude.

Buckeye vol he needs to rebrand
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:27 pm to
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He’s MUCH more polished at 20 than Lebron was.
This is true but I think this is largely a result of their background with Lebron entering the league straight from high school and Luka coming from the Euroleague. And I also think they are both really effective at using their skills and abilities to maximize efficiency, but those skills and abilities are and look a lot different. But it shows that there are multiple ways to get it done with the same end result.
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10028 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:30 pm to
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think it's bc we all look past him as just another "buckeye" poster lmao, no offense dude.



I'm not offended by that. I agree.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:35 pm to
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he low-key does it all the time from what I'm learning. doesn't get the credit he deserves.

think it's bc we all look past him as just another "buckeye" poster lmao, no offense dude.
Well I appreciate the compliments but I'm sure I'll disappoint you sooner or later. I do try to justify my arguments though, but that goes over a lot better here and on the money board than the political board.
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Buckeye vol he needs to rebrand
Well I'm proud to be an alum of both universities, so I'm proud of my brand. Although I do make my wife mad because I got my Master's degree at Bowling Green, where I met her, but do not share the same enthusiasm for that university, but I guess I could rebrand by adding that in their somewhere. (e.g., buckeye_falcon_vol ).
Posted by SoFunnyItsNot
Member since Mar 2013
4623 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:38 pm to
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whereas Luka seems to have a better team around him.


which is hard to fathom because outside of Porz this team literally does not have another starter on the team. Straight bench players. hopefully Cuban can get one more good player come trade deadline. otherwise they will not make any noise come playoff time. you'd hope next offseason someone would see Luka's potential and want to come play with a future HOF'er
Posted by Bill_M
NW Georgia
Member since Oct 2019
369 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:39 pm to
Come on. Lebron was playing with older AAU players for many years and he was in his 3rd NBA season at 20, plus he was 10 months older than Luca.

Lebron averaged 31.4 pts, 7.0 rebounds, 6.6 assist, 1.6 steals.
After 13 games Luca is averaging 29.7 pts, 10.7 rebounds, 9.1 assists, 1.3 steals per game.
Of course Lebron was stronger on defense though.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42554 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:41 pm to
Going to guess Luka’s usage is also absurdly higher.
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10028 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:41 pm to
I'd be surprised if I haven't met you before Buckeye_vols. I've been to Bowling Green many of times.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:45 pm to
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I'd be surprised if I haven't met you before Buckeye_vols. I've been to Bowling Green many of times
I'm tempted to go all "yahoo chat" and ask your A/S/L But for real, I understand if you don't want to give too many details, but roughly how old are you and what part of Ohio are you from (even if a broad region)?
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:47 pm to
I was THIS close to dropping some coin on a Luca MVP future pre-season
Posted by Bill_M
NW Georgia
Member since Oct 2019
369 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:48 pm to
The Funnie Five. Lebron picked on Doncic and Doncic picked right back.

Stats. Lebron 39 pts, 13 rebs, 15 asts.
Docic 31 pts, 12 rebs, 16 asts.
Lebron was great, he's a great competitor, but Luca had a great game too.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:48 pm to
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Going to guess Luka’s usage is also absurdly higher.
Actually no. His is currently 33.7 while Lebron's was just slightly lower at 33.6.

That said, the pace per 100 possessions with Luka in the game this season is 99.4 whereas it was only 90.0 in Lebron's 3rd season when he was in the game, although that's a reflection of the increase of pace across the league.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:49 pm to
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Lebron was great, he's a great competitor, but Luca had a great game too
And Lebron made that clear when he was interacting the Luka after the game.
Posted by Bill_M
NW Georgia
Member since Oct 2019
369 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:51 pm to
''Going to guess that Luca's usage is also absurdly higher''

Think again, Lebron averaged 33 minutes, Luca is averaging 30 minutes.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 11:52 pm
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:54 pm to
From last season:
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That put Doncic third in triple-doubles for a rookie. Only Ben Simmons (12) and Oscar Robertson (26) had more during their first NBA season.

Doncic has the most triple-doubles ever for a player 20 years old or younger.

Going further, Luka is fourth in triple-doubles for players under 21 years old. Doncic has until February 2020 to move up on this list. He trails only LeBron James (9), Ben Simmons (12), and Magic Johnson (13).


From 1 hour ago:
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Monday’s triple-double was his sixth in only 13 games this season.


Well, that didn't take long to move up this year.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:55 pm to
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''Going to guess that Luca's usage is also absurdly higher''

Think again, Lebron averaged 33 minutes, Luca is averaging 30 minutes.
I'm not sure what season you're using for minutes since Lebron's averaging his fewest minutes this season, at 34.8 per game.

That being said, their minutes on the court provides no information about their usage in those minutes, unless you meant to say 33 and 30 represent their usage, although Luka's usage is 33.7.
Posted by SoFunnyItsNot
Member since Mar 2013
4623 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 12:00 am to
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I was THIS close to dropping some coin on a Luca MVP future pre-season



I actually did drop some money on him just for the frick of it because I just moved to Dallas and gonna go to some games. Put some on him Lebron and Harden. feeling best about Luka right now. Although its gonna be hard to dethrone the Greek Freak not gonna lie. but that's part of it
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22436 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 12:00 am to
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He has already passed Giannis in every area but defense.


What about rebounding? No? So just offense? Say that then.
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10028 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 12:04 am to
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I'm tempted to go all "yahoo chat" and ask your A/S/L But for real, I understand if you don't want to give too many details, but roughly how old are you and what part of Ohio are you from (even if a broad region)?



I mean MSN was my thing not Yahoo. Lebrons era, and BGSU had bdubs where most professors were there but complained about but best place to watch NFL games.
This post was edited on 11/19/19 at 12:06 am
Posted by SoFunnyItsNot
Member since Mar 2013
4623 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 12:05 am to
for his position he's definitely a better rebounder


like what....
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