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re: Louisiana High School - Select vs. Non-Select?

Posted on 11/22/25 at 11:01 am to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 11:01 am to
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had to do split so catholic high could finally win a state championship in fb
Thats why catholic votes no everytime and even had their AD hold a special session to try and combine 5a again while WM, Destrehan and other public’s vote yes for the split?
This post was edited on 11/22/25 at 11:34 am
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 11:15 am to
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had to do split so catholic high could finally win a state championship in fb

Nailed it
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 11:31 am to
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Yes Catholic, karr, and Acadians have like a 80% winning record over the 5a public state champs the last 10 years


Yes but part of that is the self fulfilling prophecy created by the split. It has watered down the product. The best players are going to play for the best teams. By creating the split you created a perception that public schools could not compete with private schools at the 5A level. The five years before the split 5A brackets weren't dominated by a single program and the semifinals typically had 3 public schools and 1 private or select school.
This post was edited on 11/22/25 at 11:34 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 11:35 am to
It’s a self fulfilling prophecy created by the public’s . They wanted the split and they made themselves worse because of it
This post was edited on 11/22/25 at 11:36 am
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 11:59 am to
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Yes but part of that is the self fulfilling prophecy created by the split. It has watered down the product. The best players are going to play for the best teams. By creating the split you created a perception that public schools could not compete with private schools at the 5A level. The five years before the split 5A brackets weren't dominated by a single program and the semifinals typically had 3 public schools and 1 private or select school.
even though that since integration the majority of the championships in the 2 biggest classes over the years were majority publics.

once you get to quarterfinals the product is not watered down. and there were many early round blowouts before the split.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 11:59 am to
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It’s a self fulfilling prophecy created by the public’s . They wanted the split and they made themselves worse because of it


Yes that was my point!
This post was edited on 11/22/25 at 12:02 pm
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:21 pm to
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even though that since integration the majority of the championships in the 2 biggest classes over the years were majority publics.


Yes I am in agreement with you. The split wasn't necessary because the public schools were dominant in the top classifications. I had a pretty close view to how dominant some of those schools were in the early 90's.

The split has watered down the product because now there are two brackets. In my opinion Central doesn't win state last year in pre-split bracket.

How much better would the playoffs be if we started the bracket with the 32 teams that played this weekend in a combined bracket.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:25 pm to
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The split wasn't necessary because the public schools were dominant in the top classifications. I had a pretty close view to how dominant some of those schools were in the early 90's.
For the 4a and 5a schools cramming JC and ECA down the throats of 1A through 3A - yeah it kinda was. Remember in the early 2000s 4a and 5a were tired of JC and ECA and wanted them gone. Poor leadership at that time gave us the split.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:41 pm to
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3a and below even b and c vote overwhelmingly for the split.


You didn’t mention the political games designed to make B and C (improperly by today’s rules), vote for the original football only split, a sport they didn’t have and something that wasn’t rectified until a few years later

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By creating the split you created a perception that public schools could not compete with private schools at the 5A level.


My problem with that is that perception extends to all the nonselect schools whether they voted for the split or not…

The real issue is that school boards don’t want to make themselves open enrollment and even if they could, can’t do so across parishes, but that’s not something the LHSAA can regulate. LHSAA also can’t make rules that would limit private school athletic eligibility to only kids in that school’s parish. They cant decide what class a school plays sports in even if it’s obvious that one doesn’t belong where they’re placed
This post was edited on 11/22/25 at 12:56 pm
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