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re: Lincoln Riley, Saban say fans who want to expand CFB Playoff field will never be satisfied

Posted on 12/8/17 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
34437 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 3:55 pm to
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it's easy to like the four when you get a free pass into it
This is bs. I’m as jealous as anybody but let’s not act like Bama doesn’t beat everyone’s arse every year. There’s not much free about it. Auburn was the only team that managed to beat them this year. Everyone else took the field and got beat by a better team.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:26 pm to
I think everyone would be satisfied if every FBS program could actually play their way into it. Of course that's not even possible with 8 team CFP so then people would rightfully complain about it being watered down with 12 or 16.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19151 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:04 pm to
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I don't have a huge problem with that. But, let's take this year. Would you put in 11-1 Bama or 10-3 Aubie for at-large
ideally there would be no at larges but if their must be obviously Alabama
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
32863 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:28 pm to
They are right
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
9299 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:38 pm to
He's 100% right. It just moves the point of contention back. It could eventually get to the point where teams with four losses have an argument for playoff inclusion. frick that.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38128 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:27 am to
If Saban got left out this year, he'd be the first guy pounding the expand the playoffs mantra...he'd be on College Gameday crying about expanding the playoffs.



This is the same guy who wanted to ban HUHN offenses.

He doesn't want to win on the field, he wants to control CFB to win..and ESPN keeps giving him the pulpit the day before the vote by parading him on every show to cry and plead and beg to be in the BCS or the playoff.
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 12:28 am
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:41 am to
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“There’s never going to be a magic number,” said Riley. “If we have eight, then (seeds) nine and ten are going to be upset. If we have 16, then 17 and 18 are going to be upset.


That's not wrong.

frick it. We should go back to the BCS.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4550 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:13 am to
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Which is why I support going to 4 teams so that anyone who deserves to be in the championship game gets their shot.


Because that totally happened this year
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4550 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:52 am to
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The most common model I see is around mid-December. For the players, that is right in the middle of exams. They're theoretically students, after all. In the football calendar, that is right in the middle of the new recruiting signing period


Well this works for DIII, DII, and FCS don't see why it won't work for FBS
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4550 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:53 am to
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Your conference agreed to this system, and your conference championship does not earn you the right to play for a national championship. Win more games next year."


How does that work for UCF this year?

Or, hypothetically, if all P5 champions go undeafted?
Posted by bigberg2000
houston, from chalmette
Member since Sep 2005
70441 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 8:15 am to
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No I just was 8. After that, it's too much


I agree. Sure the 9th team and their fans will be upset especially if they feel they were as good as 6-8 or whatever but fact is those teams barely deserve it anyway and at least with 8 you get all teams that are worthy.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
30923 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 8:26 am to
$atan would be singing a different tune if they had (appropriately) been left out of the top 4. If you don't believe that, you missed his day of whining while the conference championships were all being played.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6899 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 8:33 am to
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The most common model I see is around mid-December. For the players, that is right in the middle of exams. They're theoretically students, after all.


Sam Houston State was in a playoff game last week, had final exams this week, and a playoff game today. The academic argument has always been an empty one.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16722 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 8:57 am to
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“There’s never going to be a magic number,” said Riley. “If we have eight, then (seeds) nine and ten are going to be upset. If we have 16, then 17 and 18 are going to be upset. 


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“I don’t care if we have 68 teams in it, we’ll still have a two-hour show on who shouldn’t have got in, just like they do in (NCAA) basketball.”


This is such a weak argument, especially trying to bring NCAA basketball into it.

Arguing between #4 & #5 or #7 & #8 is a much MUCH different scenario than arguing #65 & #66 or even #16 & #17. The quality drops off immensely. Nobody expects the 64th team that gets in the NCAA tournament to have a viable chance to win a National Championship.

Now would anyone think the #5-8 teams this year could possibly beat any of the other top 4 teams? Absolutely.

Ohio St would have just a good a chance to win it all as Georgia does IMO. Much higher at least than say Notre Dame.

An 8 team playoff is definitely viable.
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