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re: Lincoln Riley, Saban say fans who want to expand CFB Playoff field will never be satisfied
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:20 am to lsupride87
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:20 am to lsupride87
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People complain because as of now, there is absolutely no clear defined way for your team to make the playoff. Every other postseason I know of has at least one defined way every team can make their postseason. College football has none. Which is ridiculous
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Get's it.
Shel, who's a very intelligent poster, is actually suggesting the criteria become even more arbitrary by changing the number of teams that make the playoffs year to year. This is the problem with the playoffs.
If they want to keep it 4 set up criteria that must be met in order to be considered and you eliminate half the complaining right off the bat.
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:20 am to shel311
quote:Not really
Yes really
Undefeated USC Pac 10 champ
Undefeated Ohio State Big 10 champ
Undefeated Bama SEC champ
Undefeated Clemson ACC champ
Undefeated Oklahoma Big 12 champ
One of those teams currently wouldnt make it, and they would absolutely be validated in bitching
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:21 am to lsupride87
quote:I'd argue that some of the defined ways other leagues use are just as ridiculous but we accept them without as much complaining for some reason.
People complain because as of now, there is absolutely no clear defined way for your team to make the playoff. Every other postseason I know of has at least one defined way every team can make their postseason. College football has none. Which is ridiculous
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:21 am to Bench McElroy
Once again, this is why having automatic qualifiers that are the same no matter what are the best option.
Seal off the power 5 into it's own division, force each of them to have 12 teams, and make them all play an 8 game conference schedule and a 4 game rotating OOC schedule (so you play all 60 P5 teams every 12 years). ALL 5 conference winners get an auto bid to a 6 team playoff, and 1 at-large who has the best SoV gets the 6th seed. The two top SoV get a bye week.
DONE! NOT THAT HARD. In the NFL and NBA everyone knows what it takes to get in and almost NO ONE bitches if they don't make it.
Seal off the power 5 into it's own division, force each of them to have 12 teams, and make them all play an 8 game conference schedule and a 4 game rotating OOC schedule (so you play all 60 P5 teams every 12 years). ALL 5 conference winners get an auto bid to a 6 team playoff, and 1 at-large who has the best SoV gets the 6th seed. The two top SoV get a bye week.
DONE! NOT THAT HARD. In the NFL and NBA everyone knows what it takes to get in and almost NO ONE bitches if they don't make it.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:22 am to shel311
quote:We accept them because you had an opportunity to make the postseason in a clearly defined way.....
I'd argue that some of the defined ways other leagues use are just as ridiculous but we accept them without as much complaining for some reason
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:22 am to Rand AlThor
Why should Notre Dame and BYU be forced into a football conference if it does not suit their interest?
Actually Notre Dame is pseudo in a conference because the ACC can use them as a replacement in any bowl and Notre Dame can find their own bowl, if they so choose.
Actually Notre Dame is pseudo in a conference because the ACC can use them as a replacement in any bowl and Notre Dame can find their own bowl, if they so choose.
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 11:24 am
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:23 am to lsupride87
quote:And that clearly defined way is arguably more ridiculous than the CFB set up, but we still accept them.
We accept them because you had an opportunity to make the postseason in a clearly defined way.....
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:23 am to sms151t
quote:They arent forced.......
Why should Notre Dame and BYU be forced into a football conference if it does not suit their interest?
If they think it is in their interest to stay independent, then they can
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:24 am to shel311
quote:
Because you like your way doesn't mean that it's "a lot better than having 3 teams one year, 4 the next, 2 the next, etc."
Basically anything is better than changing the number of teams that makes a post season each year.
There is a reason that no professional sports association in the world does this.
quote:
So is auto bids for conf winners IMO. Hopefully you see my point now in regards to your original posts.
Again, it works fine for every other sports association, why not college football?
quote:
The system you said we should use has arbitrary teams making the playoffs, you do realize that, right?
That was supposed to read "The entire idea of having an arbitrary number of teams make the playoffs is utterly ridiculous".
Hence the reason no one, in any sport, does this.
quote:
You haven't either. Any system created will be deemed as irrational by a large contingent, so...
My systems follows the NFL model. I can't remember the last time the NFL playoffs were considered "irrational". Can you?
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:24 am to lsupride87
I was responding to a comment that said it "needs" to be 12 team conferences etc. and seal off the division.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:26 am to shel311
quote:Not by most people, but I am not surprised you are in a very very very small minority that goes against the grain
And that clearly defined way is arguably more ridiculous than the CFB set up
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:26 am to shel311
quote:
And that clearly defined way is arguably more ridiculous than the CFB set up, but we still accept them.
Repeating this over and over doesn't make it true.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:28 am to sms151t
quote:
Why should Notre Dame and BYU be forced into a football conference if it does not suit their interest?
Because we can't tailor the entire league to two teams?
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:31 am to RB10
quote:Repeating your thoughts doesn't make them true either.
Repeating this over and over doesn't make it true.
That's the 2nd time we go round and round on that, should we keep going?
It's also an opinion, so you're actually incorrect as no opinion you or I have is "true" or "false"
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 11:32 am
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:31 am to sms151t
Um, the ACC plays 8 conference games also.
Obviously you aren’t reading. If the ACC/SEC schools that play yearly adopt a 9 game schedule then their OOC schedule will be significantly cheapened.
That’s it and that’s all.
Obviously you aren’t reading. If the ACC/SEC schools that play yearly adopt a 9 game schedule then their OOC schedule will be significantly cheapened.
That’s it and that’s all.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:35 am to shel311
quote:That would open the door to criticism of human beings engaging in some real frickery by deciding to add a team one year but a similar team didn’t get the playoff expanded for them another year, etc.
Only have 2 clearcut undefeated top teams? Then a 2 team playoff, 1 championship game needed
Have 5? Make 4 and 5 a play in game, then run the 4 team playoff from there.
And so on and so forth...
If you think people bitch about the playoff committee now, the bitching would be off the charts if you changed the number of teams in the playoff each year based on the whims of a committee.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:35 am to shel311
quote:Your opinion isnt wrong, but you have to admit you are in the extreme minority that think the way you do
It's also an opinion, so you're actually incorrect as no opinion you or I have is "true" or "false"
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:36 am to lsupride87
quote:I do, and I'm ok with that.
Your opinion isnt wrong, but you have to admit you are in the extreme minority that think the way you do
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 11:37 am
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:38 am to shel311
quote:
Repeating your thoughts doesn't make them true either.
That's the 2nd time we go round and round on that, should we keep going?
My thoughts are backed by basically all leagues across the country, seeing as they do it this way. Yours are backed by none.
You have no leg to stand on here. It's time to move on.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:38 am to shel311
quote:Ok
I do, and I'm ok with that.
So in terms of this thread, you somewhat see why Saban/Riley are wrong?
If they changed the playoffs to the way people in here are describing, you would go from about 50% people bitching every year, to maybe 5%.
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