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re: LHSAA goes full retard

Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:57 pm to
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:57 pm to
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You missed the part where I said teams I was interested in checking out. NOLA it would be Curtis, Jesuit, maybe Brother Martin. Baton Rouge PBS and Catholic. Monroe Neville, WM, OCS. Shreveport Evangel and Calvary.


Just because that is all you are interested in doesn't mean that is all anyone else is interested in, especially a kid coming from out of state who doesn't know St. Martins from St. Augustine.
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:58 pm to
That's where that 5 years worth of records would come into play. You could google that in minutes.
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 5:02 pm to
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That's where that 5 years worth of records would come into play. You could google that in minutes.


Come on man, you know that doesn't tell the whole story. If you have a WR son, you may want to go to school where he can start sooner, or be more of an impact on offense, rather than just be on a "good team." You may want to look into Curtis, Rummel, St. Aug, Jesuit, Brother Martin, Shaw, Holy Cross, Country Day, Karr, Newman, De La Salle, etc.
Posted by TJG210
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 5:54 pm to
This playoff system has to be the most assinine thing I've ever heard.
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 6:13 pm to
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the lhsaa is going to do this dumb shite they really need to wait AT LEAST a year before doing it to work out some sort of plan that will work


This is all being driven by the butthurt principal at Winnfield who didn't like her undefeated team being skulldrug all over the Dome by Curtis two years ago. And they STILL gerrymandered the Divisions to screw 3A and the couple teams in 4A in the so-called Select group. I had hopes that there would be an injunction halting this nonsense, but now that the money schools (NOLA Catholic Schools) rid themselves of Curtis again, it seems less likely. My son gets it up the arse in his senior year of HS. I've wondered so many times over the years why I moved back from the great, free education they would have gotten in The Woodlands to drag them into the BR education cesspool that I've paid dearly for them to escape, and now we have this BS. to Kenny Henderson and the bunch of fricking cowards for doing all this over 2 schools.
Posted by 5Alive
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 6:36 pm to
So have they made a desicion on Karr yet?
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 11:48 pm to
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This is all being driven by the butthurt principal at Winnfield who didn't like her undefeated team being skulldrug all over the Dome by Curtis two years ago. And they STILL gerrymandered the Divisions to screw 3A and the couple teams in 4A in the so-called Select group. I had hopes that there would be an injunction halting this nonsense, but now that the money schools (NOLA Catholic Schools) rid themselves of Curtis again, it seems less likely. My son gets it up the arse in his senior year of HS. I've wondered so many times over the years why I moved back from the great, free education they would have gotten in The Woodlands to drag them into the BR education cesspool that I've paid dearly for t


Curtis was gonna be in 3a next year no matter how u slice it- split no split
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 5:51 am to
We've resigned ourselves to being stuck with Curtis. My oldest son's teams had two bitter eliminations by the 19 year olds, including the Barrett Bailey team that had a chance to make a run and drew Curtis at Curtis in the second round. But to add the 4A teams into the 3A playoffs is just piling on. Like I said, to be completely selfish, I was hoping for an injunction that would have delayed implementation of this BS long enough for my youngest to finish his senior year "only" having to deal with a PBS team hit hard by graduation, and Curtis.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 8:22 am to
well the rules say you can have 19 year olds too...
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 10:23 am to
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We've resigned ourselves to being stuck with Curtis. My oldest son's teams had two bitter eliminations by the 19 year olds, including the Barrett Bailey team that had a chance to make a run and drew Curtis at Curtis in the second round. But to add the 4A teams into the 3A playoffs is just piling on. Like I said, to be completely selfish, I was hoping for an injunction that would have delayed implementation of this BS long enough for my youngest to finish his senior year "only" having to deal with a PBS team hit hard by graduation, and Curtis.



don't blink past Amite, Patterson, SCC and our friends from Crowley.....

and I agree Curtis and ECA should be in 4a or 5a.. and should never have been in 1a or 2a...

anyone that followed the LHSAA went that went down.. knows full well what and why it happened.

I have said for year.. hold backs have a bigger impact on HS athletics than recruiting does.

heck yall have a soph lineman that I think is a shoe in to be a d1 lineman...and if he was at some other schools - he could be an 8th grader... chew on that...
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 10:42 am to
Still mad my Mom wouldn't let me holdback. I would've been on the 98 WM team.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 10:50 am to
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My son gets it up the arse in his senior year


Why shouldn't your son's school have to beat Curtis? Your son's school traditionally gets knocked out in the first round or two of the 2A playoffs, then gets a new coach, and magically starts to "develop" 4 and 5 star recruits? News flash, U High has recruited kids just as much as Curtis and Evangel. They should have to play each other.
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 1:07 pm to
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Icansee4miles


A) JC and EHS don't have nearly as many 19 year olds as people are saying, and would bet only have 1 to 2 per team each year. It's just an excuse. Have 19 year olds played? Yes, but it's not against the rules and I guarantee every single team in the state has had at least one in the past few years.

B) JC and EHS are bound by the same rules that everyone else is. Both these schools are scrutinized hard by the LHSAA each year and are often accused of "recruiting," yet JC has never been found guilty of such while public schools are found guilty left and right.

C) Sports are bound by "fair" rules, which everyone has to play by. The problem is that those two teams, before they even get on the field, has done so much more work than the other teams that people often decry "cheaters" when in actuality they just don't want to admit that good athletes tend to gravitate towards good programs and discipline/work ethic are an important factor.

D) Look at the 7th and 8th graders at these two schools and they look like any other junior high kids in the state. They are the same age too. They just get built up better than any other program in the state in the following years.
Posted by RPC4LSU
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 2:12 pm to
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JC and EHS don't have nearly as many 19 year olds as people are saying, and would bet only have 1 to 2 per team each year. It's just an excuse. Have 19 year olds played? Yes, but it's not against the rules and I guarantee every single team in the state has had at least one in the past few years.

How about the number of 18 year olds? When we played curtis for the state championship(a long time ago), I was probably one of the oldest kids on our team(17). JCC was the only team in the finals that did not put the age of their players in the program. I wonder why.

BTW, I am not for the split, but I don't like people defending JCC and others by saying everyone does it.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 2:17 pm to
the point that we try to make is that everyone CAN have kids that age.

so John Curtis might have a team full of 18 year olds. Ecole Classique is K-12, they can too. nothing stops them except themselves.
Posted by RPC4LSU
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 2:23 pm to
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so John Curtis might have a team full of 18 year olds. Ecole Classique is K-12, they can too. nothing stops them except themselves.


I understand anyone can be held back, but I am not holding my kid back in the 7th grade so he can play high school football and pay an extra year of tuition. Priorities are different I guess.
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 2:29 pm to
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I understand anyone can be held back, but I am not holding my kid back in the 7th grade so he can play high school football and pay an extra year of tuition. Priorities are different I guess.


Give me names of athletes who were 19 this past football season. Otherwise you are just repeating stuff other people have said. And as far as the 18 thing, when did 18 not become the standard age of graduation? I graduated at 17 and was always the youngest or next to youngest in my grade.
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 3:12 pm to
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not holding my kid back in 7th grade


Well of course not. That's illegal and you'd lose a year of eligibility. You've got to hold them back in 5th grade or before.
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:17 pm to
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News flash, U High has recruited kids just as much as Curtis and Evangel. They should have to play each other.


Recruiting has been going on since I was in HS in BR, public and private. War was waged between public schools over Tommy Calandro when I was a senior, so don't act like kids have only mysteriously started showing up on our campus like we are the only ones. When Curtis reports an enrollment of 300 some odd students and dresses out well over 100, I can assure you no one else is in their league. And while I don't know the New Orleans scene very well, to suggest CHS, and in the past RHS and others in BR don't recruit, removes any possible credibility you might have.
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Posted on 6/7/13 at 4:22 pm to
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Well of course not. That's illegal and you'd lose a year of eligibility. You've got to hold them back in 5th grade or before.


And I heard from a very solid source at LSU that Chris Jackson's parents were asked by JT to have him repeat the 5th grade. This was after the rules were changed to prevent Curtis from doing it in MS like they used to. It's interesting that we've had to deal with them for my two kids' entire athletic career, while all these posters come in here and tell us to quit whining, all while their alma maters and kids' schools are ensuring that they don't have to deal with Curtis and ECA in 4 or 5A.
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