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re: LHSAA Dome thread… Saturday, STM/LCA, SCC/CBA, Rus/Zac

Posted on 12/10/23 at 7:34 am to
Posted by joechristoppher77
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 7:34 am to
Defense does have a lot to replace especially in the front 7, but yeah coaching is great so I think they will figure it out. Offense does replace some OL which is huge but has most everything else back. I'd bet they put up some Playstation points next year lol
Posted by Mushroom1968
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 7:48 am to
I felt Ruston D was reeling in the 3rd. I'll admit, I don't know much about Zachary but I do know now they have 2 beasts at WR. Ruston has a good secondary and had no answers in the 3rd Q. Then they tried to play vs the pass and Z started getting a run game going.

Ruston did what they've done all year though, 4th Q play their best football.
Posted by joechristoppher77
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 7:52 am to
81 from Zachary made the best catch of the game, it didn't count but oh my that kid was impressive. Ahmad Hudson from Ruston will be as big as Green, kid doesn't look like a freshman that's for sure.
Lots of talent on display last night, only thing I regret is I wish Union had played the game before
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 8:31 am to
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Yeah because it’s totally fair for the Divison II runner up 3 years in a row to move down to 2a and play the likes of Lake Arthur and Welsh in district that’ll definitely help them compete……
look at most 3a and below privates in district games - there is a clear pattern.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 8:33 am to
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in div III Dunham, PBS, Uhigh, Calvary and a couple others may have a say in that


They won't have any trouble in their district. Anyone that says Notre Dame would be competitive is delusional. They will have a ton of running clock games in the future. Even without Johnson, I believe they'll dominate 2A

look at what those do in their districts as well as OCS, SU LAb etc.... it's not about being competitive in district.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 8:38 am to
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So you’re going to deny that they’re using state funds to give “academic scholarships” to “kids living in poverty” that just so happen to be good in sports?
There is no stipulation that voucher money cannot be used for athletes or non athletes(to be fair) also it's public record what schools use vouchers and how many - it might surprise you to look that up.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 8:42 am to
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LCA offers hardship scholarships as does every private Protestant and Catholic school. I do not believe any of those are state-funded. I also know that LHSAA prohibits the behavior you are describing so it should be easy for them to prove and punish appropriately. If there is a program that the state offers that would allow someone to apply for funding to attend a private school, how is that an LCA issue (I do not know if that is or isn't something available)? If that does exist, are you saying no other private school has players who do that?
THe lhsaa does not prohibit financial assistance to athletes, it does prohibit the use of financial assistance to get a student to attend or remain at a school with financial assistance that is not available to any student and aid cannot be discussed until said student is accepted into school(unless that part has changed)
Posted by rmc
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 9:34 am to
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I felt Ruston D was reeling in the 3rd.


They were. Zachary got two crushing post play personal fouls that completely switched the complexion of the game and the momentum. Terrible discipline.

Ruston QB is a gamer. He reminds me of Lutcher’s QB from last year. I love a naked bootleg near the goal line. They dialed it up at the right time and iced the game.

There were also some big hits last night. Good season. Spring practice is only 4 months away.
Posted by cheobode
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:12 am to
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financial assistance that is not available to any student


My wife taught at LCA a few years ago. Our kids(non athletes) received partial tuition discount due to my wife being on staff. If I remember correctly, that's the same discount athletes receive.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:13 am to
from my experience in lafayette, catholic schools administer hardship tuition assistance based on the applicant’s tax return and financial info provided by the applicant to the school admissions office and to the diocese tuition assistance office

the review process for eligibility is managed by the diocese office, not a principal or teacher or a coach at the school

the money for tuition assistance comes from the diocese to the school to fill out the budget. Each student slot tuition is accounted for in the school budget and revenue.

now obviously a faculty member can advocate for a kid with the Diocese, but that is about it. The priests and review staffers are hyper aware of favoritism, bias, and potential manipulation of the process

Shaw got in trouble for administering tuition assistance at the school level with coaches and faculty members administering the program. Priests around the state saw that and the church leadership tightened up the process statewide

so catholic school athletic coaches giving “scholarships” to athletes is horseshite. if anything a catholic coach will go to a wealthy booster and ask for a helping hand for an athlete. I never saw that first hand, but there are always stories floating around.

the other religious schools I have no knowledge of how they operate. it would be far easier for a church owned school to cheat with athletic scholarships because the school budget is part of the church budget. So balancing the school budget and accounting for the missing tuition money from a student slot filled by a non-payer is an internal accounting thing. At a Catholic school, the school revenue and budget is separate from the Church and Diocese budgets.
This post was edited on 12/10/23 at 10:17 am
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:19 am to
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so catholic school athletic coaches giving “scholarships” to athletes is horseshite. if anything a catholic coach will go to a wealthy booster and ask for a helping hand for an athlete. I never saw that first hand, but there are always stories floating around.

the other religious schools I have no knowledge of how they operate. it would be far easier for a church owned school to cheat with athletic scholarships because the school budget is part of the church budget. So balancing the school budget and accounting for the missing tuition money from a student slot filled by a non-payer is an internal accounting thing. At a Catholic school, the school revenue and budget is separate from the Church and Diocese budgets.
many catholic schools are using the state voucher program as well, in nearly every diocese. LINK
This post was edited on 12/10/23 at 10:30 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:29 am to
The LHSAA requires all schools using tuition assistance to allocate that money through a verified of third-party company (like FACTS) and audits it once a year.

The whole “they have boosters giving scholarships” is non-sense. And if that happens, it’s a major violation.

Parents, especially those with talented athletes, are going to seek out programs that can advance their kids. That’s the bottom line and uncomfortable truth for many places.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:39 am to
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many catholic schools are using the state voucher program as well, in nearly every diocese.


right, the point is every student slot has a revenue expectation assigned to the slot in the budget. so giving away slots creates holes in the budget

this website is a great reminder that a person can be smart but people are stupid.
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 11:24 am to
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Parents, especially those with talented athletes, are going to seek out programs that can advance their kids. That’s the bottom line and uncomfortable truth for many places.


I brought it up a few weeks ago in a playoff thread but I am curious to see if unfettered school choice gets passed. If it was ever going to get passed, now would be the time. I can’t imagine that the private schools will do anything but get much better in sports.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 11:36 am to
the sad thing about it is Central and Zachary showed the way and the rest of the state continues to ignore their success
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 11:40 am to
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The whole “they have boosters giving scholarships” is non-sense. And if that happens, it’s a major violation.
when schools get caught they get hammered too.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 11:45 am to
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many catholic schools are using the state voucher program as well, in nearly every diocese.


right, the point is every student slot has a revenue expectation assigned to the slot in the budget. so giving away slots creates holes in the budget

this website is a great reminder that a person can be smart but people are stupid.

and in the shaw case all football coaches ended up being cleared by the LHSAA, another sport different story.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 11:49 am to
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Parents, especially those with talented athletes, are going to seek out programs that can advance their kids. That’s the bottom line and uncomfortable truth for many places.


I brought it up a few weeks ago in a playoff thread but I am curious to see if unfettered school choice gets passed. If it was ever going to get passed, now would be the time. I can’t imagine that the private schools will do anything but get much better in sports.

charter schools and cases like the st george case may eventually force the states hand on this. Imagine if Metairie became it's own city and school district, like st george wants to do.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:04 pm to
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the sad thing about it is Central and Zachary showed the way and the rest of the state continues to ignore their success


Just look beyond our state borders, Texas ISDs put our public schools to shame athletically, academically, etc. Same thing in Alabama.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:06 pm to
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Just look beyond our state borders, Texas ISDs put our public schools to shame athletically, academically, etc. Same thing in Alabama.
it's heartbreaking to see what they are doing while LA is mired in a socio political quagmire.
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