re: Let's talk about Tom Brady's last 8 playoff losses

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There is

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Thanks for admitting defeat. You did so semi-honorably.

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They are included in these playoff stats that i will post for a fourth time:

Tom Brady playoffs: 247ypg 1.65tds/g .85ints/g 62.11% completion and 87.5 rating

Peyton Manning: 286ypg 1.61 tds/g 1.03ints/g 64.3% completion and 89 rating

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I guarantee that 99% of the people on both sides of this debate would tell you that their playoff stats were more disparate.

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All the people in here saying it's an arbitrary time frame,

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The time frame isnt needed, even when you look at his complete history it isnt better. The team results were better certainly, but the qb play has been the same between brady and manning in their playoff careers

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I guarantee that 99% of the people on both sides of this debate would tell you that their playoff stats were more disparate.

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People are lazy, and they lap up what the media tells them without actually finding out the truth on their own. The media promotes stories and characters, not facts and truth. Just look at the Incognito/martin story for further proof

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All the people in here saying it's an arbitrary time frame, or a deliberate selection to make Brady look bad are missing the point.

After 2004, the Patriots went from being about the team to being "Tom Brady's New England Patriots."

The 3 wins were very much team wins, with the defense contributing equally to the game as the offense.

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You'll get reasonable responses that oppose some things you've said here, but here's something you just can't argue with:

Through 2004, Brady generally came through in the clutch in the playoffs. He choked in the 2003 playoffs by going 0-0 in the postseason (the worst postseason record you can possibly have).

Since 2005, he has choked every single time he has been in the playoffs.

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Keep up the good troll.

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^^^Troll

You're calling him a troll, and all he did was post stats.

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Brady plays like his usual self, PM melts the frick down

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Incorrect again. They both have about the same very slight drop in play in the playoffs:
Tom Brady playoffs: 247ypg 1.65tds/g .85ints/g 62.11% completion and 87.5 rating
Regular Season: 255ypg 1.88tds/g .69ints/g 63.4% completion and 96 rating

Peyton Manning playoffs: 286ypg 1.61 tds/g 1.03ints/g 64.3% completion and 89 rating
regular season 271ypg 2.04tds/g .91ints/g 65.5% completion and 97 rating

It is actually quite amazing how wrong most people are about sports due to media influence

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theunknownknight

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I am loving your posts in this thread. You are saying everything I wanted to say and doing a much better job at it. I didn't even have to post.

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arbitrary qualifier.

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2005 is not some arbitrary year. It was the season after their unprecedented 3rd Super Bowl win in 4 years and a year or so before they got busted for spy-gate.

The variables are so off that's absurd

Rule changes, rosters, etc.

take it on a year to year and you'll see. TB in 2007 wasn't the same TB from 2003. You can't have years of elite
Performance tied to some playoff numbers when he wasn't the same QB.

TB was an 85 passer for a few years because he was playin with horseshite on O, was playing under different rules and the team was structured differently on O.

One thing does favor manning heavily, a lot of those poor performances and losses came to teams that won the Super Bowl that year

Pats x 2 IIRC, steelers 05, ravens, saints, Seahawks

Non SB winners- chargers x 2 07, 08, jets 2010