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re: Let's talk about Tom Brady's last 8 playoff losses
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:31 am to theunknownknight
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:31 am to theunknownknight
I don't want to get sucked into this conversation again, but...
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D. Thomas and E. Decker - no one heard of them until Manning came along.
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:32 am to offshoretrash
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Joseph Addi was no slouch either.
He's so good that when left the Colts he got cut by the Patriots 1 week in to training camp
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 11:33 am
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:32 am to DelU249
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because they are in completely different situations, aside from starting with awesome defenses
So...you use the "different situations" argument to defend Brady when he played like Flacco...but ignore that argument when attacking Manning for not winning more in the playoffs when he was on teams with obviously atrocious defenses most of his career?
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:32 am to boom roasted
How many times were they pro-bowlers with Tebow?
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:33 am to VerlanderBEAST
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but but but Brady is the catalyst I tell ya
no one thinks he was dragging NE to SBs. Though I would definitely call him the catalyst in 04 when he had a 111 qb rating in the playoffs against some good teams and won a second half shoot out against the panthers who people forget were really fricking good.
manning had a 101 rating in the postseason that year. It broke down like this
158.3
110
35
anyone want to sit here and tell me that brady isn't more consistent for his career in the postseason?
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:33 am to offshoretrash
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But lowly Drew Brees and the Saints faced this team twice at their house and performed better than PM on a neutral field in better weather.
Blind homerism. The Saints were blown the frick out on Monday night in the regular season. That game was over early. In the playoffs, the Saints defense played their arse off, and kept Drew Brees in the game. Drew Brees had career (with the Saints) lows until scoring 15 4th quarter points. Brees threw for about 200 fourth quarter yards to pad his stats.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:34 am to theunknownknight
quote:Is that how you look at it? No one has heard of them if they're not pro-bowlers? And you're talking about the worst passing QB in the history of the league.
How many times were they pro-bowlers with Tebow?
I'm out.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:35 am to theunknownknight
nothing to do with their defense, that is just the only similarity...both flacco and brady had it so it isn't differentiating them
the difference is brady played under different rules with a much less talented group of offensive players...
I think those roids are shrinking more than just your prick.
the difference is brady played under different rules with a much less talented group of offensive players...
I think those roids are shrinking more than just your prick.Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:35 am to Choupique19
quote:I don't know if that's a fair thing to say. The Saints weren't that far from pulling off quite a comeback.
Brees threw for about 200 fourth quarter yards to pad his stats.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:36 am to boom roasted
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boom roasted
They were in the NFL for 2 years before Peyton got there
Year 1: Backups to Eddie Royal and Brandon Lloyd
Year 2: 1163 yards combined
and FYI they had more games with Orton than Tebow
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 11:37 am
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:36 am to Choupique19
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Blind homerism.
yup drew was just as embarrassed the first go, unlike manning, he got a second crack at them.
Though, drew didn't have the greatest season in NFL history. I love how manning cocksuckers build him up to god like levels and then when he crashes and burns so spectacularly, "he's only human"
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:38 am to VerlanderBEAST
I wouldn't argue against the point that manning made a Cinderella out of decker but Thomas was fricking legit even with tebow, just because the MSB didn't want to recognize him didn't mean he was a slouch. He is a top wideout.
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 11:43 am
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:38 am to boom roasted
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Is that how you look at it? No one has heard of them if they're not pro-bowlers? And you're talking about the worst passing QB in the history of the league.
Well that's how you're acting...as if these receivers carried Manning as if he just came into the league and didn't have 15 years of proof where Manning made receiver after receiver great.
If you want to really pull out that argument then look at the outlier seasons Brady had with Moss and Welker and go ahead and throw those out while you're at it.
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 11:39 am
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:38 am to VerlanderBEAST
quote:And no one heard of them? I was pretty confident both Decker and D Thomas were going to be legit WRs in the NFL. Demaryius is a physical freak and a first round pick. Decker less so but he had the physical skills as well.
They were in the NFL for 2 years before Peyton got there
Year 1: Backups to Eddie Royal and Brandon Lloyd
Year 2: 1163 yards combined
and FYI they had more games with Orton than Tebow
To say that no one heard of them before Peyton got there is flat out wrong.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:39 am to theunknownknight
Just imagine how good Brady could be if he had a receiver like Wes Welker and a tight end as good as Julian Thomas.
Also, I agree that Decker is above average at best.
Also, I agree that Decker is above average at best.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:39 am to theunknownknight
quote:What the hell are you talking about? When did I ever even remotely insinuate that?
Well that's how your acting...as if these receivers carried Manning as if he just came into the league and didn't have 15 years of proof where Manning made receiver after receiver great.
ETA: Not worth the time. Just wanted to laugh at the "no one heard of them before Peyton" comment. Continue.
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 11:40 am
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:39 am to Choupique19
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pad his stats
you mean how manning threw about 120 yards the last two drives against NOLA in the SB to pad his, or just the other night when he was the ultimate stat padder.
though I wouldn't call throwing the ball a shite ton getting blown out padding stats.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:40 am to DelU249
quote:Not your best day.
manning cocksuckers
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:41 am to Choupique19
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Wes Welker
not even the best option among Denver's receivers
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Julian Thomas
imagine how indefensible gronk would be if he had demaryius Thomas and wes welker on his team.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 11:42 am to ballscaster
it really is a typically awesome day.
The only point I've made is that Brady plays more consistent in the playoffs, which is 100% true which is why that is what you chose to address.
The only point I've made is that Brady plays more consistent in the playoffs, which is 100% true which is why that is what you chose to address.
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