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re: LeBron's legacy will be decided this series
Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:48 pm to buckeye_vol
Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:48 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
HOF (player) status
Does not equal
quote:
GOAT status
2
Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:51 pm to Weagle25
No matter how much money you have and how many people admire you, losing by 22 points in game 1 is tough
Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:55 pm to Weagle25
quote:No, but if 3-4 (or 3-5), despite everything else, precludes one from GOAT status, then 1-8 and 0-8 should really diminish their status on the same continuum.
Does not equal
Jordan is obviously the GOAT, but it's not just because of his championships. And despite his better NBA finals record, Lebron is considerably better than Kobe (your guy). So obviously there is more to the equation.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 11:57 pm
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:02 am to buckeye_vol
quote:Not according to that poster's logic, he lost more seasons than he won.
Jordan is obviously the GOAT
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:03 am to buckeye_vol
Moral of the story for both of you: don't use hyperbole
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:04 am to Weagle25
quote:After you learn the definition of it first though.
Moral of the story for both of you: don't use hyperbole
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:06 am to Weagle25
quote:Fairly certain that poster meant that literally.
Moral of the story for both of you: don't use hyperbole
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:07 am to buckeye_vol
Hyperbole
Also hyperbole:
quote:
exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.
Also hyperbole:
quote:
I think we should revoke the HOF (player) status of Elgin Baylor (0-8 in Finals) and Jerry West (1-8 in Finals).
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:08 am to Weagle25
quote:Again, pretty sure he meant it literally.
exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:09 am to shel311
And again you are wrong
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:11 am to Weagle25
quote:It's not hyperbole when using the standard that the poster set. So for that to be interpreted as hyperbole, then Lebron's automatic disqualification from achieving GOAT status, is also hyperbole. So then I take your interpretation as evidence that Lebron is not disqualified from GOAT status by his Finals record alone.
I think we should revoke the HOF (player) status of Elgin Baylor (0-8 in Finals) and Jerry West (1-8 in Finals).
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:13 am to buckeye_vol
quote:
It's not hyperbole when using the standard that the poster set
You took his standard (which y'all are taking way too literal btw) and exaggerated it to make your point. That's pretty much the definition of the word.
quote:
So for that to be interpreted as hyperbole, then Lebron's automatic disqualification from achieving GOAT status, is also hyperbole
Exactly what I said...
quote:
So then I take your interpretation as evidence that Lebron is not disqualified from GOAT status by his Finals record alone.
Correct
This post was edited on 6/2/17 at 12:14 am
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:17 am to Weagle25
quote:So by taking the literal interpretation of his premise, then I created hyperbole? Hmmmm. Or maybe if a literal interpretation of a premise results in hyperbole, then maybe the premise was hyperbolic go begin with.
You took his standard (which y'all are taking way too literal btw) and exaggerated it to make your point.
quote:So then we are in agreement, and the hyperbole rests in the other poster's premise.
Exactly what I said...
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:18 am to buckeye_vol
quote:
So by taking the literal interpretation of his premise, then I created hyperbole?
The literal interpretation had nothing to do with HOF status but nice try
quote:
So then we are in agreement, and the hyperbole rests in the other poster's premise.
No it's in yours and his like I said in the first place
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:22 am to Weagle25
quote:It's all part of the same ranking continuum.
The literal interpretation had nothing to do with HOF status but nice try
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:28 am to buckeye_vol
quote:
It's all part of the same ranking continuum.
GOAT and HOF criteria are completely different and you know it. But you needed to make your point
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:31 am to Weagle25
quote:It actually speaks for the need to make the other point when you apply it to 1 and not the other, very inconsistent. It begs of knowing it's flawed but still needing to fill that narrative already created however possible.
GOAT and HOF criteria are completely different and you know it. But you needed to make your point
Posted on 6/2/17 at 12:43 am to shel311
I'm not exactly sure what point you're talking about but it seems fairly reasonable that there would be additional criteria to be the best player of all time versus one of the best
Also the change in GOAT criteria would be more volatile depending on who is in the conversation than HOF criteria would be
Also the change in GOAT criteria would be more volatile depending on who is in the conversation than HOF criteria would be
This post was edited on 6/2/17 at 12:53 am
Posted on 6/2/17 at 6:59 am to ctiger69
Let's hear the excuses for LBJ
Posted on 6/2/17 at 7:06 am to ctiger69
quote:
LeBron is the John Elway of the NBA. He has won a couple of championships but he has also lost a lot.
(1) LeBron's legacy will not be decided in this series. He is playing a great team that was pretty heavily favored going into the series.
(2) LeBron has not lost a lot. Think about how many superstars have won 3+ championships. It's not extensive. Think about how many superstars have been to eight NBA finals. It's not extensive.
This post was edited on 6/2/17 at 7:07 am
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