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re: Lebron would absolutely roast these nerds
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:26 am to DownSouthCrawfish
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:26 am to DownSouthCrawfish
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0-6 against Larry Legend in the playoffs
Larry Bird and 4 other HOF players.
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:31 am to dek81572
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Larry Bird and 4 other HOF players.
Expansion would have made things a little more diverse...
Again biggest reason why you shouldn't and truly can't compare players from different eras.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:38 am to TeddyPadillac
Bro are you sure you’re right?
Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:49 am to slutiger5
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Mj would shut down the opposing guard\wing threat
It's literally remarkable how you guys give other people's accomplishment to Jordan.
Shows how none of you actually have ever watch the NBA and just use it to attack LeBron because he hurt your feelings.
Yesterday was Scottie Pippen who locked down the other team's best player BTW.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 11:24 am to YStar
It’s also a retarded argument.
Who the frick ISNT shutting down their man in that era? Lebron would fricking murder his man playing one on one basketball in that era.
And if you’ll take his teammate’s and peer’s word for it, Jordan was a selfish defender more focused on individual defensive stats than helping the team.
The disparity in credit MJ and LeBron get for their defensive ability and production is unbelievable.
I cannot find a single difference in someone who argues Jordan > LeBron and folks who voted for Kamala bc she’d be better than Trump.
They’re fricking retards.
Who the frick ISNT shutting down their man in that era? Lebron would fricking murder his man playing one on one basketball in that era.
And if you’ll take his teammate’s and peer’s word for it, Jordan was a selfish defender more focused on individual defensive stats than helping the team.
The disparity in credit MJ and LeBron get for their defensive ability and production is unbelievable.
I cannot find a single difference in someone who argues Jordan > LeBron and folks who voted for Kamala bc she’d be better than Trump.
They’re fricking retards.
This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 11:25 am
Posted on 3/12/25 at 11:24 am to longhorn22
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Negative. You are wrong
That's wonderful that you posted all that crap to try to prove something, but the fact is team defense isn't played any differently today that it was 30 years ago.
Nothign prevents defenses from doubling players, just like nothing prevented that 30 years ago.
You cannot play help side defense in the lane if your man is out by the 3 point line, same as it was 30 years ago.
You can post all the rules of this and that all you want. The game was and still is geared towards defenses not being able to help unless they go double. If you think a team is getting away with playing help, or building a wall like is commonly reffered to defending Zion and Giannis and Lebron, then that's b/c the offense isn't actually staying spread out like they are supposed to in order to prevent the defense from forming that wall.
There is literally nothign different about someone having the ball on the left wing, while there's two guys up top above the 3 poitn line, a player on the right wing and a player on the corner. When you line up like that, whether in 2025 or 1995, no defender can be in the paint or on the left side of the court unless they are going double. The difference between illegal defense in the 90's and the 3 second rule is barely even noticable.
As for zone defense, you still can't sit in a 2-3 and have your 5 sit in the paint like your in college. If the other team has 1 guy on the left and everyone else on the right, you can't have two guys on the left side defending unless they are doubling. You can't just sit on the left side as a help side defender and then say "we are playing zone defense".
Posted on 3/12/25 at 11:30 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:Are you sure?
but the fact is team defense isn't played any differently today that it was 30 years ago.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 11:40 am to ReauxlTide222
defense's evolve just like offenses evolve dumbass. Does'nt change the fact that they still can't play help side defense.
The fact remains that the NBA is and always has been geared towards not allowing help side defense unless you're doubling. Pretending like a defender playing happy feet in and out of the lane as more help side defense than just standing outside the lane the entire time is retarded. I watch that today and think they are idiots for doing that. What happens when the offensive guy makes his move as you are moving back outside the lane? He's gotten an extra step or 3 on you now that woudln't have happened if you were just ready outside of the lane, 3 feet over, but ready to help the second the offensive guy made his move to the lane.
The fact remains that the NBA is and always has been geared towards not allowing help side defense unless you're doubling. Pretending like a defender playing happy feet in and out of the lane as more help side defense than just standing outside the lane the entire time is retarded. I watch that today and think they are idiots for doing that. What happens when the offensive guy makes his move as you are moving back outside the lane? He's gotten an extra step or 3 on you now that woudln't have happened if you were just ready outside of the lane, 3 feet over, but ready to help the second the offensive guy made his move to the lane.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 11:47 am to ReauxlTide222
Nah
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:00 pm to TeddyPadillac
This doesn’t look the same to me.
Can one of you Jordan fans give us some insight here? Y’all never want to talk ball.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:40 pm to ReauxlTide222
I hope you didn’t make that meme
Gaurd??? And then if once wasn’t enough, again!
That screenshot is the equivalent of LSU fans screenshotting “missed holding calls”, what are we to pertain from a still picture like that?
It does conjure up memories of how a young Kawhi absolutely skull fricked LeBron in that series tho
Gaurd??? And then if once wasn’t enough, again!
That screenshot is the equivalent of LSU fans screenshotting “missed holding calls”, what are we to pertain from a still picture like that?
It does conjure up memories of how a young Kawhi absolutely skull fricked LeBron in that series tho
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:08 pm to lsupride87
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When LeBron was in his prime and making finals the nba was rolling.
Highest rated Finals in NBA History (average for the series):
1. '98 Bulls vs Jazz
2. '93 Bulls vs Suns
3. '97 Bulls vs Jazz
4. '96 Bulls vs Sonics
5. '87 Celtics vs Lakers
6. '91 Bulls vs Lakers
Lowest Rated Finals to include Jordan
9. '92 Bulls vs Blazers
Highest Rated Finals to include LeBron
21. '15 Cavs vs Warriors
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:17 pm to TeddyPadillac
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You can't just sit on the left side as a help side defender and then say "we are playing zone defense".
See it quite often
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:20 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Can one of you Jordan fans give us some insight here? Y’all never want to talk ball.
Jordan babies are the ones creating threads about a player to then come in and Knight a player who hasn't played in almost 25 years
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:32 pm to ReauxlTide222
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This doesn’t look the same to me.
Nice picture.
Now let’s see the picture taken 2 seconds later of that same play when no one is in the lane.
You do understand what 3 seconds on the defense means?
You can’t just stay in that defense and if you showed a video or gif it would debunk your stupid arse picture argument.
I’m not arguing it’s the same exact rules. It’s obviously not. But if you actually watched a game and took lebrons dick out your mouth you’d understand that the game is still individualism offensively and you can’t play help defense unless you double.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:33 pm to longhorn22
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See it quite often
No you don’t. Unless your talking about seeing illegal defense being called.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:46 pm to TeddyPadillac
Let's play picture basketball
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Now go watch all this "illegal defense" against MJ
Now go watch all this "illegal defense" against MJ
Posted on 3/12/25 at 2:09 pm to TeddyPadillac
Can we add in that clip off MJ at the top of the key getting the Ben Simmons treatment then not even coming close to the goal? 
This discussion is going nowhere as it just continues to show the evolution of the game and how you cannot compare eras.
Pull up some clips from the 70s pre 3 point line. Same for the 60s.
Just also continues to show the reasoning how anyone pre 2000 would struggle against role players in 2025.
Skill level is higher and players are more efficient.
This discussion is going nowhere as it just continues to show the evolution of the game and how you cannot compare eras.
Pull up some clips from the 70s pre 3 point line. Same for the 60s.
Just also continues to show the reasoning how anyone pre 2000 would struggle against role players in 2025.
Skill level is higher and players are more efficient.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 2:46 pm to longhorn22
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Skill level is higher and players are more efficient.
Skill level is definitely higher on average b/c more kids grow up specializing in 1 sport, but the best of any era would be the best in any other era if they grew up in the era too. It also helps that you have access to free help videos on how to get better via youtube now a days. "Back when I was a kid"...........I was busy doing silly dribbling drills with those stupid shades on just dribbling up and down the court. You watch Steph Curry dribbling drills on youtube and practice that for a year and you'll be a better ball handler than 90% of nba players from 30-40 years ago. Kids these days have access to so much content to help them get better, including watching themselves play.
MJ would have been a much better 3 point shooter if he was born in 1990 instead of 1960 and played in todays nba b/c he would have grown up shooting a lot more 3's in his life and having an emphasis of shooting them more.
I'm sure MJ, much like the rest of us that played basketball in the 90's grew up getting fussed at for shooting 3's too much. In todays basketball a 16 year old can go 0-10 from 3 and his coach would tell him to keep shooting in the the next game. 16 year old MJ could go 0-2 in a game and probably get taken out for taking a stupid shot.
I look back at my high school team and we had 1 guy on our team that was allowed to shoot 3's. We didn't even practice shooting 3's. We practiced shots from the elbow and short corner. That was in 2000. I go back to a practice around 2008 and our same coach has drills where literally everyone on the team is shooting 3's. He even apologized saying how dumb it was for us to practice and play that way, but that just shows how much the game had evolved already and that was 17 years ago.
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This discussion is going nowhere as it just continues to show the evolution of the game and how you cannot compare eras.
I would agree, but saying something like MJ would'nt be as dominant today, or Lebron woudln't be as dominant 30 years ago is an incredibly stupid thing to say.
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