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re: LeBron is 5 for 47 in game-tying or go-ahead shots last 5 seconds of 4Q or OT

Posted on 2/27/16 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by ivan drago
Member since Feb 2016
15 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 12:18 pm to
I've detailed each shot for you, moron.

You're seriously fricking retarded. Embarrassed that you're a fan of my school. I doubt you graduated though, t shirt fan.
Posted by TechDawg2007
Bawville
Member since Nov 2007
32577 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 12:30 pm to
Michael Jordan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lebron James
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 12:31 pm to
That is actually really surprising.

LeBron has statistically been a very good 4th quarter player, at least in his time in Miami.

But that's a lot of data to just ignore. Maybe he doesn't seem to get to the right spot on the floor to get high-percentage shots in last-second situations in the regular season. I don't know. He's an amazing player, but that number is surprising.
This post was edited on 2/27/16 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 12:31 pm to
He wouldn't be my beer pong partner
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17360 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

Maybe he doesn't seem to get to the right spot on the floor to get high-percentage shots in last-second situations in the regular season.


This is the correct answer...he falls in love with the "20 footer for the win".
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
30154 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 12:33 pm to
Steph is so much better than Lebron
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 12:35 pm to
Incorrect stats
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 12:49 pm to
Couple of things. OP title says 4/57, but your post says 4/47 I'm sure that was accidental.

Second, Basketball reference's stats conflict with where ever Sportscenter is getting there. LINK

Here's Kobe's for reference LINK

Basketball reference doesn't have those Stats for Jordan unfortunately. I think Jordan benefits a lot in these arguments by being from an era before we had unlimited access to these stats.

Also, I don't really understand why we're obsessed with narrowing the definition of clutch to last second shots. As if, doing well in the final 5 minutes so there isn't a need for a last second shot isn't clutch.
This post was edited on 2/27/16 at 12:52 pm
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17360 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

Basketball reference doesn't have those Stats for Jordan unfortunately. I think Jordan benefits a lot in these arguments by being from an era before we had unlimited access to these stats.


Supposedly...someone pulled all of Jordan's playoff film and found he was 9/18 to tie or take the lead with less than 24 seconds. I'll dig it up.

ETA:

LINK

Also...you bbref stats don't match because you pulled the wrong type of report...yours is cumulative by season, not individual game.
This post was edited on 2/27/16 at 12:58 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60101 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 12:55 pm to
It's around that time....this place can become unbearable from now until the playoffs are over.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18407 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 12:58 pm to
Glad to know people are still debating LBJ and MJ.

Also

Curry final MVPs: 0

LBJ>MJ by a very small margin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>curry by a hell of a lot
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216476 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 1:03 pm to
Sorry buddy. But overall Jordan was better.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111525 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 1:06 pm to
You are right. The OP seems incorrect. It looks like Lebron has made 19 in the regular season
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39420 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

through 15 years of NBA data (see table below) -- Bryant's entire career, regular season and playoffs -- and found that Bryant has attempted 115 shots in the final 24 seconds of a game in which the Lakers were tied or trailed by two or fewer points. He connected on 36, and missed 79 times.


Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216476 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 1:07 pm to
Steph is going great right now and doing things I have never seen. But if I were starting a team I would still take lebron over steph.
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
8250 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 1:11 pm to
You would only take Lebron if he told you to take him. He would also demand to make every other selection.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39420 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 1:11 pm to
Post-season

Last 24 seconds

Kobe: 7 for 28 (25.0%)

LeBron: 7 for 17 (41.1%)
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130928 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 1:16 pm to
Sup Gamecock?
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
68045 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 1:22 pm to
Upvote
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 2/27/16 at 1:24 pm to
I would need to see a shot chart before blasting him too badly but that seems horrible just based on the numbers
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