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re: Lebron has officially done less with more than Michael Jordan did
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:03 pm to Chad504boy
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:03 pm to Chad504boy
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Sure pippens a great defender but D Wade is a clutch baller that was capapble of putting 30 on the board night in and out in prime healthy.
The Bulls won 55 games with Pippen as their only star. The Bulls were 5-7 when Pippen returned from an ankle injury and then won 30 of 35.
Pippen as the alpha was pretty damn good.
You think Wade gets that ring without Shaq?
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:04 pm to timbo
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Pippen was the second best player in the NBA in his prime.
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frick no.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:05 pm to PurpGold 14-0
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Pippen as the alpha was pretty damn good.
okay great. I'm not downing pippen. D Wade prime was better.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:05 pm to Chad504boy
Well he did finish 3rd in MVP voting once........
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:05 pm to timbo
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Pippen was the second best player in the NBA in his prime.
Wut?
It wasn't Ewing, Shaq, Malone, Barkley, Hakeem, etc?
Pippen is great, but I don't think you can definitively say he was the second best in the NBA at that time. You really can't judge it because having MJ on the team opened up a lot of opportunities for Pippen.
It's amazing how people have propped MJs teammates to god-like status and made it out so LBJ is playing with people recently called up from the D-league.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:06 pm to stout
quote:I mean without MJ playing, Pippen was 3rd in MVP voting. Sorry that makes you mad, blame the voters not us
Pippen is great, but I don't think you can definitively say he was the second best in the NBA at that time. You really can't judge it because having MJ on the team opened up a lot of opportunities for Pippen.
It's amazing how people have propped MJs teammates to god-like status and made it out so LBJ is playing with people recently called up from the D-league.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:06 pm to Chad504boy
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okay great. I'm not downing pippen. D Wade prime was better.
Based on what? Your eye test? The ability to drop 30? Is that it?
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:08 pm to lsupride87
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Sorry that makes you mad, blame the voters not us
That's great. LBJ has played with a guy that finished 3rd in voting too.
And all of that doesn't all of a sudden make Pippen the 2nd best in the NBA at that time.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:08 pm to stout
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You really can't judge it because having MJ on the team opened up a lot of opportunities for Pippen.
It's amazing how people have propped MJs teammates to god-like status
I mean, Pippen was pretty damn successful when he didn't have Jordan. It's not like he could control Jordan being there or not. Pippen was damn good. Was probably the best defender of that era and proved that he was more than capable of being the #1 option on an Eastern Conference contender.
ETA: I'm not saying Pippen was the 2nd best player in the NBA at that time. I'm arguing that Pippen's prime was better than Wade's
This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:09 pm to PurpGold 14-0
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Based on what? Your eye test? The ability to drop 30? Is that it?
Scoring, D wade's rebounding as a 2/1 Guard, Pippen scored career high of 22 one year. Pippen had 4 years of 20 plus ppg. D wade has 10 and hasn't had best of luck health wise along the way. DWade as a 2 guard defender is good enough to combine with his offensive ability and clutch play making ability in post season.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:09 pm to stout
quote:ok
That's great. LBJ has played with a guy that finished 3rd in voting too.
quote:It makes saying he was 2nd best very reasonable, and should not garner a
And all of that doesn't all of a sudden make Pippen the 2nd best in the NBA at that time.
WUUUUT?
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:09 pm to stout
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It's amazing how people have propped MJs teammates to god-like status and made it out so LBJ is playing with people recently called up from the D-league.
They won 55 games the season after MJ retired, in the same East people say was so treacherous back then. Not too shabby.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:09 pm to lsupride87
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Sorry that makes you mad, blame the voters not us
todays players are only considered better when its to prove Lebron had amazing teammates.
you cant help but lol at the ignorance
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:09 pm to PurpGold 14-0
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I mean, Pippen was pretty damn successful when he didn't have Jordan. It's not like he could control Jordan being there or not. Pippen was damn good. Was probably the best defender of that era and proved that he was more than capable of being the #1 option on an Eastern Conference contender.
I didn't say anything to the contrary.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:10 pm to lsupride87
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It makes saying he was 2nd best very reasonable,
Not when you have so many other HoF guys in the league at the same time also in their prime.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:11 pm to Chad504boy
quote:Jordon made Pippen!! How many titles did Pippen win when MJ was hacking at the baseball?
Pippen was the second best player in the NBA in his prime.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:11 pm to timbo
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Pippen was the second best player in the NBA in his prime. Wade wasn't quite at that level.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:11 pm to rocket31
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odays players are only considered better when its to prove Lebron had amazing teammates.
you cant help but lol at the ignorance
You can reverse that for the counter arguments about MJ
Shouldn't you be off somewhere worrying about how people see and judge you?
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:13 pm to stout
quote:So, in your opinion and the hysterically laughing Mattz, it is downright UNREASONABLE to say the guy who finished 3rd in MVP voting was 2nd best in the league. You dont just say you disagree, you say it is UNREASONABLE. That is crazy to me
Not when you have so many other HoF guys in the league at the same time also in their prime.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 3:13 pm to The Pirate King
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The constant trolling from the LEGOATTTTT idiots is 10x worse than anything any lebron "hater" has done
Bull. fricking. shite.
There are some guys with a post count of less than 100 that show up with bullshite on both sides, but that comment is completely false with the regulars on this board.
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