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re: Least Effective Coach Still in the Playoffs

Posted on 5/8/13 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75185 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 2:42 pm to
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God Miami fans are dumb



They aren't Miami fans. They are LBJ deep-throaters. They'd be telling you how amazing the Toronto Raptors are if he played in Toronto.
This post was edited on 5/8/13 at 2:43 pm
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 2:43 pm to
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They aren't Miami fans. They are LBJ deep-throaters. They'd be telling you how amazing the Toronto Raptors are if he played in Toronto.


Kind of my point
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 2:58 pm to
How many games did Mike Brown win with LeBron? He's considered incompetent. Why does Spoelstra get the benefit of the doubt due to number of wins?
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:01 pm to
lol both of you twos ignorance toward Spo's ability is amusing.

Go look at the '09 and '10 Heat rosters. He coached both of them to the playoffs. Those teams played Michael Beasley 2000+ minutes! He's created a dynamic offensive scheme this season that plenty of people with actual knowledge of the NBA are impressed with.

He's an exceptional coach, and thought of as such by people that matter. But I'm sure you're right. Anyone could do his job.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:03 pm to
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If anybody can win with the Heat's roster, then what does that say about Scott Brooks? He has as much talent as the Heat does.


No he doesn't. 2 stars < 3 stars. Not to mention the stacked bench the Heat have.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:04 pm to
Chris Bosh is not a "star" right now.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:05 pm to
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Right. Spo is overrated because he coaches a team full of All Stars, so he would win regardless.


The stars ultimately run the plays they want to run. Kenny Smith recently said Rudy would go over the game plan and after he did, Hakeem would pull him aside and said ignore what he said. Do what I tell you. Barkley did the same thing as a player.

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Oh wait, didn't Mike D just coach a team full of All Stars?

Comparing a team comprised of old farts vs players in their prime? Your better than this.
This post was edited on 5/8/13 at 3:06 pm
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:08 pm to
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Chris Bosh is not a "star" right now.


Stop. If he didn't have his touches cut in half, he'd be averaging 24 again just as he was with the Raptors. Both Wade and Bosh's game has suffered for the better of the team.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:08 pm to
His better than this what?
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84486 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:09 pm to
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Stop. If he didn't have his touches cut in half, he'd be averaging 24 again just as he was with the Raptors. Both Wade and Bosh's game has suffered for the better of the team.



The Spo haters in here use a lot of "if's".
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:09 pm to
It's not a if when it's a fact. Look at his stats pre-Heat.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:10 pm to
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ol both of you twos ignorance toward Spo's ability is amusing.

Go look at the '09 and '10 Heat rosters. He coached both of them to the playoffs.


Being in the top 8 teams in Eastern conference isn't much of an accomplishment.

09 - They did basically what every team does with one star on their team. They went 1-4 in the playoffs.

10- They lost to a team with a lot less talent in the Finals.

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He's created a dynamic offensive scheme this season that plenty of people with actual knowledge of the NBA are impressed with.




This from a Heat fan. What is so dynamic about the Heat's offense. Have the best passing big man in most likely NBA history basically play PG where he has the ability to kick out the ball to a former NBA finals MVP, all time record holder of 3's made, or another perennial all star at PF?

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you're right. Anyone could do his job.


I know I am. Its pretty simple. You seem to forget he has a HOF coach helping out at every turn as well......
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:19 pm to
Riley really gift wrapped him that team to Spo. Had Miami missed out on the big 3 in FA and they went to say NY, he'd be out of a job by now.
Posted by RedElephants
Pittsburgh Steelers Fan
Member since Feb 2009
8126 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:25 pm to
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I think Woodson over achieved. Outside Melo, JR, and Chandler that team is god awful and old as hell.


Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:29 pm to
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here's the question. how many coaches of the 30 teams in the NBA couldn't manage to get the Heat's roster to the playoffs?
THAT is the question?

Managing egos is vastly underrated in the nba, so I don't believe every coach could have had equal success as Spo.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:31 pm to
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Much worse team 


Playing the result.

That was a highly debated topic before the season started, how soon we forget.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:34 pm to
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RedElephants


What's so funny? Kurt Thomas, Camby, Martin, Kidd, Q-Rich all have one foot in the grave.
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
6228 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:37 pm to
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Comparing a team comprised of old farts vs players in their prime? Your better than this.


Miami Heats roster is older than the LA Lakers roster. Good try though.

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Posted by RedElephants
Pittsburgh Steelers Fan
Member since Feb 2009
8126 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:44 pm to
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What's so funny? Kurt Thomas, Camby, Martin, Kidd, Q-Rich all have one foot in the grave.


You mentioned several players that log 0 minutes. Martin signed a 10 day contract in February to fill a roster spot and has been logging solid minutes defensively.

Kidd is out of his time but plays a few good defensive minutes per game.

The old team that everyone laughed and made fun of in the beginning of the year seems to be ok right now in the playoffs....and Woodson did a great job with the team he has IMO.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:44 pm to
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Miami Heats roster is older than the LA Lakers roster.


Um, I'm sorry but Miami's best players are much younger than the Lakers. Dwight is the only exception. Total team age is not what matters. It's the age of the stars.

Lebron 28 vs. Kobe 34
Wade 32 vs. Nash 40
Bosh 29 vs. Pau 33

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RedElephants


My point still stands that outside of those 3, the team is awful.

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The old team that everyone laughed and made fun of in the beginning of the year seems to be ok right now in the playoffs....and Woodson did a great job with the team he has IMO.


That is why he got my vote for COY because I thought he over-achieved and surprised people.
This post was edited on 5/8/13 at 3:46 pm
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