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re: Leach fired!

Posted on 12/30/09 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by wrlakers
Member since Sep 2007
5895 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 4:22 pm to
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Former players and a coach including Graham Harrell are calling out this kid for the super douche he is.
Of all the things that have been said, this has got to be what would make me most embarassed if I was Adam.

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During the season he was often “injured” (it usually seemed like a very minor injury that could keep him out of practice but never out of any other activity, including games) so he would not participate in some drills in practice. None of these acts were productive for our team, but the most detrimental part of Adam was his off field attitude and actions. In the locker room and away from the facility, Adam used any opportunity he had to tell other players how he was being treated unfairly, how the coaches did not give him a fair chance and how we did not have to do everything the coaches told us because they had no option but to play some of us.


Having a peer call you out in such an unflattering way--ouch.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37587 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 4:22 pm to
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adam james address just got posted on the team leach facebook w


This story just keeps getting better.
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
33245 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 4:24 pm to
I don't know who to believe any more.

I'd like to think that Graham Harrell letter is a pretty good indication of what others thought of Adam James if I hadn't heard rumors that Graham Harrell was a GRADE-A douchebag himself.
Posted by wrlakers
Member since Sep 2007
5895 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 4:31 pm to
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I'd like to think that Graham Harrell letter is a pretty good indication of what others thought of Adam James if I hadn't heard rumors that Graham Harrell was a GRADE-A douchebag himself.
Yes, well, more evidence that whether a person is a douche is an opinion, not a fact.

The Tech faithful in our office are fuming about the whole mess and vowing to cut off all alumni contributions. As a sometimes Tech fan myself, I think it's sad.
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6126 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 4:33 pm to
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the problem, though, is that Adam is unusually lazy and entitled. Many other players on this team, specifically receivers, have a much larger role on this team with less talent. I have always been worried about Adam's effect on my other players because of his weak and conceited attitude. I recently found out that Adam deliberately undermined my authority on many occasions. This is particularly disturbing because Coach Leach hired me to make our receivers the best group in the country, and Adam has damaged this group far more than I even realized. He should be grateful forthe opportunity that was given to him here that was not offered at any other Division 1 football program. He has an unvelievable sense of entitlement because of who his father is; one that hurts himself and people around him. Adam is the kind of person thatakes excuses or blames people for things that go wrong in his life.


This is from another current coach.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
18475 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 4:37 pm to
Ouch. Hope this kid has other talents, 'cause I don't see him playing football for a living.
Posted by CoonassatTEXAS
Austin, TX
Member since Nov 2005
1242 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 4:37 pm to
TT messed up big time.

They had only won 5 bowl games since the 50's since the pirate got there.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37001 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

I'd like to think that Graham Harrell letter is a pretty good indication of what others thought of Adam James if I hadn't heard rumors that Graham Harrell was a GRADE-A douchebag himself.


i can agree, but since a number of other players and coaches have said the same thing i think you can take his word for it.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7700 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 5:07 pm to
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You can fire someone for no reason at all. But you can't fire them for a "bad" reason. Getting out off paying him a bonus he's due is a "bad" reason.


Under Louisiana law you cannot exercise an othewise lawful right (such as the right to terminate employment at will in the absence of a contractual agreement requiring cause) if you are acting in bad faith, i.e., for the purpose of harming the other person without a legitimate benefit to oneself. This concept is broadly known as "abuse of right."

The concept applies both to the employer and the employee. For example if an employee were to leave employment suddenly and for the purpose of harming the employer, say at a particular critcal point leaving the employer unable to meet his obligations, the same rule would allow the employer to recover damages. Such a situation would be very rare because it conflicts with the principle of personal autonomy which is a principle underlying Louisiana contract law, and generally personal autonomy would prevail (especially as to specific performance). But an act that clearly was for the sole purpose of injuring the employer would be unlawful, and the employer could recover damages.

If the Leach case were to be decided under Louisiana law on the bonus, if Leach could show the firing were for the purpose of denying him a bonus, he would likely prevail. But he may have difficulty proving that.

I would guess that the case will be settled before there is a trial. TT will pay him a substantial settlement, but less than 2.4 million.
Posted by wrlakers
Member since Sep 2007
5895 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 5:24 pm to
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Under Louisiana law you cannot exercise an othewise lawful right (such as the right to terminate employment at will in the absence of a contractual agreement requiring cause) if you are acting in bad faith, i.e., for the purpose of harming the other person without a legitimate benefit to oneself. This concept is broadly known as "abuse of right."
First, let me say that I have never heard of anyone recovering under an abuse of right theory. I can see no court in Louisiana or otherwise allowing such a vague principle to overcome the otherwise settled contractual expectations of the parties.

Second, that's Louisiana; this is Texas. In Texas, there is no duty of good faith between contracting parties unless a special relationship exists. The Texas Supreme Court says that the special relationship don't come along often. They exist between insurer and insured, and fiduciary and beneficiary. The relationship between employer and employee is not the kind of special relationship that implies a duty of good faith.

I'm not saying that Leach has no claim. What I am saying is that the motive of a party in a breach of contract case is not legally relevant.
This post was edited on 12/30/09 at 5:29 pm
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
41687 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 5:46 pm to
at Texas Tech.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126598 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 5:47 pm to
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Don't judge all Mexicans by the ones that jump the border. There are plenty of light skinned Mexicans.


yea the rich ones in mexico city
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37587 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 6:45 pm to
And Monterray.
Posted by Enfuego
Uptown
Member since Mar 2009
9954 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 7:14 pm to
man this is crazy
Posted by atchafalaya
Bayou Chene, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
1530 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 7:27 pm to
if it hasn't made this website yet, here you go.

totally railroaded.

TT internal emails!

if someone has scooped me on this well... shite.
This post was edited on 12/30/09 at 7:33 pm
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8454 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 8:04 pm to
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TT internal emails!


just wow
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7700 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 8:43 pm to
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First, let me say that I have never heard of anyone recovering under an abuse of right theory. I can see no court in Louisiana or otherwise allowing such a vague principle to overcome the otherwise settled contractual expectations of the parties.


The principle of good faith/bad faith and abuse of rights are well-settled and well-understood law in both Louisiana and under traditonal civil law (as applied in places like France, Spain, Italy, Latin America, etc.). Bad faith termination of contract has been recognized as a cause of action in Louisiana, though it is fairly rare.

The way in which the law deals with bad faith/abuse of rights is one of the principle distinctions between the civil law of obligations and common law of contracts. Under the traditional legal doctrines of civil law, and as expressly provided in the Louisiana Civil Code, one is expected to perform one's obligations in good faith. Good faith is generally implied in common law contracts as well, but civil law jurisdictions seem to give it more substance.

There are a number of cases and statutes which reflect the good faith doctrine in Louisiana. For example, when a contract does not specify the duration, either party can terminate, but still must give reasonable notice under the circumstances. The Louisiana Civil Code expressly requires reasonable notice. This reflects the notion of good faith as applied by the courts and in the doctrine of civil law. This situation isn't explicitly "abuse of rights," but is consistent with the doctrine and related to it.

More expressly recognizing the doctrine is a case involving termination of at-will employees to avoid consequences of paying otherwise due benefits (at least where the employer retained the discretion to pay or not pay the benefits upon termination).

While the doctrine is raised somewhat often, it isn't often relied upon by the courts.




Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7700 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 8:44 pm to
The Chancellor of TT was interviewed on ESPN. He stated the Leach was insubordinate, did not cooperate, was stubborn and hard-headed. He said Leach was responsible for his own firing.

Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37001 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 8:47 pm to
And what did you expect him to say?
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7700 posts
Posted on 12/30/09 at 8:53 pm to
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And what did you expect him to say?


Exactly that. Not commenting on the validity, just reporting what he said.
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