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Lavonte David got a serious PB snub
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:04 pm
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@Redskins
Suit up, @Rak98! #Redskins OLB Brian Orakpo will replace Ahmad Brooks at the Pro Bowl. Congrats, 'Rak! #HTTR
Ahmad Brooks opted out of playing so Coaches and players in the league chose Orakpo over David
Brian Orakpo (as a 3-4 OLB mind you): 60 tot tcks (43 solo), 10 sacks, 0 FFs, 1 INT, 4 PBUs
Lavonte David (as a 4-3 OLB): 144 tot tcks (106 solo), 6 sacks, 2 FF, 5 INTs, 10 PBUs
so a guy in his 2nd yr who has arguably one of the best seasons an OLB has had in 20 years gets snubbed because a glorified DE in the 'Skins system had double digit sacks??? What a joke
This post was edited on 1/21/14 at 10:07 pm
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:10 pm to BuccWildBammer
Lavonte David. week 1. Enough said
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:13 pm to BuccWildBammer
not that big of a deal, would you want him to risk getting injured in a meaningless game?
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:24 pm to hsfolk
Guys get bonuses for being a PB player on their contracts and multiple PBs can help a player get a nod faster in the HOF
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:27 pm to BuccWildBammer
Who?
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:29 pm to BuccWildBammer
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Guys get bonuses for being a PB player on their contracts and multiple PBs can help a player get a nod faster in the HOF
they usually don't give the PB bonuses out to the alternates
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:30 pm to BuccWildBammer
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one of the best seasons an OLB has had in 20 years
Wat
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:47 pm to BuccWildBammer
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Ahmad Brooks opted out of playing
That's one way to put it.... Or his knee opted out of his leg
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:49 pm to rondo
derp
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:50 pm to wildtigercat93
Since maybe 96 one of the best seasons a LB has had
Article I found breaking it down
LINK
Also compares other PB selections and he leads in all categories
Article I found breaking it down
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In fact, you could argue that Lavonte David had the best season a linebacker has ever had in the NFL. With three games left in the season, Lavonte David had 43 'Defeats', a measure used by Football Outsiders that essentially tallies impact plays on defense. As far as I can tell he then added three third down stops and three more tackles for loss not on third down, which would give him 49 Defeats on the season. Only one player ever notched more (they have stats going back to 1996), and that was J.J. Watt with 56 last season -- when he won Defensive Player of the Year.
And yet Lavonte David doesn't make the Pro Bowl?
The most jarring aspect of his snubbing is that Lavonte David came in fifth in fan voting, per ESPN. This wasn't due to the fans' lack of passion or some other nonsensical storyline like that. It wasn't due to media disrespect, as the media voted him a first-team All-Pro (they don't get a Pro Bowl vote). Had it been up to either the fans or the media, David would be travelling to Hawaii.
LINK
Also compares other PB selections and he leads in all categories
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:57 pm to BuccWildBammer
get over it, he didn't get in
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:58 pm to BuccWildBammer
Yeah thats complete bullshite. David had a really good year and should be recognized.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:59 pm to TTsTowel
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derp
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:20 pm to BuccWildBammer
I agree that he got snubbed, but that article is just silly.
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In fact, you could argue that Lavonte David had the best season a linebacker has ever had in the NFL.
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(They have stats going back to 1996)
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:47 pm to XequalsWhy
Ok let's look at LBs who have won DPOYs
2011 - Terrell Suggs: 70 tcks, 14 sacks, 7 FFs, 2 INTs, 6 PBUs
2008 - James Harrison: 101 tackles, 16 sacks, 7 FFs, 1 INT, 3 PBUs
2005 Brian Urlacher (good comparison): 121 tcks, 6 sacks, 1 FF, 0 INTs, 5 PBUs
2003 Ray Lewis: 161 tcks, 1.5 sacks, 2 FFs, 6 INTs, 13 PBUs
2002 Derrick Brooks: 117 tcks, 1 sack, 1 FF, 5 INTs, 11 PBUs
Keep in mind Suggs and Harrison are/were pass rushing guys in a 3 - 4 on the outside and the others listed were a few HOF MLBs
That's 20 years so 1 maybe 2 DPOYs are comparable or better
2011 - Terrell Suggs: 70 tcks, 14 sacks, 7 FFs, 2 INTs, 6 PBUs
2008 - James Harrison: 101 tackles, 16 sacks, 7 FFs, 1 INT, 3 PBUs
2005 Brian Urlacher (good comparison): 121 tcks, 6 sacks, 1 FF, 0 INTs, 5 PBUs
2003 Ray Lewis: 161 tcks, 1.5 sacks, 2 FFs, 6 INTs, 13 PBUs
2002 Derrick Brooks: 117 tcks, 1 sack, 1 FF, 5 INTs, 11 PBUs
Keep in mind Suggs and Harrison are/were pass rushing guys in a 3 - 4 on the outside and the others listed were a few HOF MLBs
That's 20 years so 1 maybe 2 DPOYs are comparable or better
This post was edited on 1/21/14 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 1/22/14 at 12:03 am to BuccWildBammer
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 12:05 am to BuccWildBammer
Damn, his stats are fricking unreal and I've watched him play, I'd be pissed if I was a TB fan.
Posted on 1/22/14 at 12:25 am to SomeTigerFan
TY comparable season to a few HOF caliber guys in some of their best DPOY years and he doesn't get voted in AT ALL then snubbed as a replacement
This post was edited on 1/22/14 at 12:26 am
Posted on 1/22/14 at 12:42 am to BuccWildBammer
he got snubbed. he should be all-pro this year as well
Posted on 1/22/14 at 12:47 am to BuccWildBammer
I was really, really impressed with a bunch of 'traditional' young linebackers this year, not just pass rushers. I feel like we could be entering a resurgence for the position, after it being devalued for the past decade or so.
N Bowman, Burfict, Luke Kuechly, Kiko Alonso, Lavonte David, Deandre Levy, Bobby Wagner, Danny Trevathan, etc.
N Bowman, Burfict, Luke Kuechly, Kiko Alonso, Lavonte David, Deandre Levy, Bobby Wagner, Danny Trevathan, etc.
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