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Posted on 6/20/10 at 2:02 am to TotesMcGotes
Jesus Christ. I thought we were screwed with the KG contract...
Posted on 6/20/10 at 9:11 am to Lester Earl
quote:
shots per game; career
Bird: 19.3
Kobe: 19.3
Watching Kobe haters fail thread after thread is pretty funny.
Posted on 6/20/10 at 9:15 am to AlexLSU
quote:
You saw Orlando and Phoenix live this season and were completely wrong about how their seasons
I like how you slide your way out of the ACTUAL thread by bringing up predictions.
You must not have seen him live, If you did you could see that he is THE better overall team player.
Posted on 6/20/10 at 9:16 am to Jcorye1
Comparing the stats of a SG (Kobe) to a SF/PF (Bird) just doesn't work.
If forced to choose between an elite guard or post player, I'd pick the post nearly every time. Bird.
If forced to choose between an elite guard or post player, I'd pick the post nearly every time. Bird.
Posted on 6/20/10 at 9:28 am to TotesMcGotes
I have a hard time comparing shooting percentages from that era to this era
As a whole shooting percentages have gone down. I've just never realistically thought that was a good barometer to compare
Shooting percentages have gradually and steadily declined since the mid 80's. Honestly I think if Kobe played in the early 90 and mid 80's his percentages would be higher
It's tougher for offensive players to score in todays game. Especially in Isolations situations
As a whole shooting percentages have gone down. I've just never realistically thought that was a good barometer to compare
Shooting percentages have gradually and steadily declined since the mid 80's. Honestly I think if Kobe played in the early 90 and mid 80's his percentages would be higher
It's tougher for offensive players to score in todays game. Especially in Isolations situations
Posted on 6/20/10 at 10:18 am to dukke v
Bird without a doubt 
Posted on 6/20/10 at 6:05 pm to jglass3lsu
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If forced to choose between an elite guard or post player, I'd pick the post nearly every time.
That hasn't always worked out in practice. Sam Bowie over MJ. Oden over Durant. Darko over anyone.
Posted on 6/20/10 at 6:07 pm to Easy
I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'm pretty sure some bigs were screwed for guards in the draft.
Posted on 6/20/10 at 6:14 pm to Easy
quote:
That hasn't always worked out in practice. Sam Bowie over MJ. Oden over Durant. Darko over anyone.
I'm not sure his rule holds up every time - but he did say elite. The examples you picked were one sided cause one turned out not to be elite and the other one very much so
Posted on 6/20/10 at 6:35 pm to mattz1122
Ask Dr J if Bird can play defense.
How many categories does Bird rank in the top ten?
How many categories does Bird rank in the top ten?
This post was edited on 6/20/10 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 6/20/10 at 7:16 pm to Kracka
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 8:01 pm to Crassus
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Ask Dr J if Bird can play defense.
I'd love to ask him off the record.
Look I understand all you Bird fans have your boys back, and He's probably one of the top 5 players of all time.
But he was not a good defensive player. Good instincts on help defense, that's about it. He was often exposed one-on-one.
But hey, he was a better defensive player than Pistol Pete and I loved the Pistol, if that makes you feel any better.
Posted on 6/20/10 at 8:12 pm to mattz1122
Bird won three titles. Bryant has won two. Yep. Bryant has won two.
Posted on 6/20/10 at 8:18 pm to mattz1122
I would take Bird every day of the week and twice on Sunday. If Bird jacked it up as much as Kobe he probably would have averaged 5 to 10 points more per game than Kobe. Not to mention that the NBA three point line was further back when Bird was playing and he still shot at a higher percentage.
Posted on 6/20/10 at 8:26 pm to LSUnowhas2
quote:You had me...
I would take Bird every day of the week and twice on Sunday. If Bird jacked it up as much as Kobe he probably would have averaged 5 to 10 points more per game than Kobe.
quote:...and then you lost me.
Not to mention that the NBA three point line was further back when Bird was playing and he still shot at a higher percentage.
Wiki it, man.
Posted on 6/20/10 at 8:29 pm to LSUnowhas2
Did you miss the career field goal per game numbers?
Posted on 6/20/10 at 8:39 pm to AUTigLN11
quote:There were more field goals shot per game in the 1980s than in the 2000s fyi. Teams average about 12 points less than they did 20-30 years ago.
quote:
shots per game; career
Bird: 19.3
Kobe: 19.3
Watching Kobe haters fail thread after thread is pretty funny.
Posted on 6/20/10 at 9:06 pm to mattz1122
you should have asked for peoples ages also when asking this question. most posters on this board have never seen Bird play.
Posted on 6/20/10 at 9:12 pm to xiv
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Teams average about 12 points less than they did 20-30 years ago.
where are you getting that number? I was looking through the recent rankings for offense and defense and the numbers were really close between the 80s, 90s, and 00s
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